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post #26 of 71 (permalink) Old 3-20-2017, 1:29 AM Thread Starter
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its the ticking after the 3 second mark
i couldnt upload the clip so here is a link
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I don't hear anything overly abnormal.
I hear the valvetrain just a ticking away.

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Here's mine from a dead cold start at around 70 degrees.
Don't need to watch whole thing if you don't want to.
You can hear the valvetrain as soon as it starts up.
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ok,. i see i heard the ticking in your video just as the bike started and near the end. it almost sounds like metal hitting metal. thats normal? i trust you, but maybe a second opinion from someone just in case. no disrespect to you O.E.M
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That's 100% absolutely and completely normal sounding.
And actually that video was done just a few hundred miles after a valve adjustment.
Owned it since new off the showroom floor. 12 years now.... and it's sounded like that since day one with 1/10th of a mile on it.

No disrespect taken at all.
But that's the way they sound.

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ETA: And yes, it is metal on metal.
Like I said.... a slight, overlapping, metallic sound.
It's the ends of the rocker arms tapping on the ends of the valve stems.

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ok,. i see i heard the ticking in your video just as the bike started and near the end. it almost sounds like metal hitting metal. thats normal? i trust you, but maybe a second opinion from someone just in case. no disrespect to you O.E.M
o_e_m's bike sounds the way it is supposed to.

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o_e_m's bike sounds the way it is supposed to.
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Yup.
As does everyone else's that's tuned and running proper.
Just the way they sound.

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did you adjust the pilot screws?
adjusting the pilot screws makes it start up quicker especially when its cold.
sounds normal to me. my 07 is at 55k miles.

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Yes pilot screws are 2 1/2 turns out
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I've listened to your video OEM and I now hear the difference. What your mentioning is the valve lobes spinning.my ticking is more like a sparking plug sparking I'd say. Please give it another listen if you can. You can hear it after the 3 second mark.
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hi. you wanted a second opinion so here it is. "THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT" it sounds fine. there will always be some difference between the noise of any two machines. and by the way it sounds a hell of a lot better than mine used to do.

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I really can't hear a thing wrong with yours.
To my ears, your engine sounds completely normal for an EX.

Only difference you're hearing might be in the difference between the two devices that recorded it or the speakers it's playing from.

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You're talking about the highest pitched sound in that clip, right? Almost sounds like you're clinking two spoons together really quickly?

My old ('95) ninja had that, but not as much. I never figured out what it was.. could possibly be the cam chain out of spec and clanking somewhere?

The sound never changed, so I left it be.

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Yes like 2 spoons hitting. Did it still sound like that
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Sounded like that the whole time I owned it. Still does the last time I heard it. Unless the sound changes, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you really want to dive in to find it: check your valve clearance again, check how much tension is being put on the cam chain by the tensioner, check the cam chain stretch, and anything else you may think it could be.
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My bike rattled like the OP's for 20'000km, at least, except much louder, until I revved above 5krpm.

Eventually it blew a head gasket and when opened it was found to be caused by piston slap from a sup-par top end rebuild.

There's a thread with pics and video here somewhere. . .


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I'd just make sure it's serviced thoroughly and on schedule from now on and just run it. If it ever becomes an issue then deal with it.


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My bike rattled like the OP's for 20'000km, at least, except much louder, until I revved above 5krpm.

Eventually it blew a head gasket and when opened it was found to be caused by piston slap from a sup-par top end rebuild.

There's a thread with pics and video here somewhere. . .


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I'd just make sure it's serviced thoroughly and on schedule from now on and just run it. If it ever becomes an issue then deal with it.
I remember your thread, but I'm not sure if I would go off of it because of all the unfortunate mistakes that were made when you sent your bike out for service/rebuilds. Do you still have those videos of your engine? The videos come up as unavailable.
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I guess I'll let it run for a bit and see if the noise changes. I'll work on the antifreeze leak from my other post in the mean time. The noise just started recently so I'll let it be for now
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Just for the fun of it, make sure you don't have a loose spark plug. Don't over tighten. The plugs are supposed to be gently snugged, like 1/8 turn after they contact the head. Sounds like there might possibly be a loose plug whistling.
To take this all the way you would break the plugs loose, shoot compressed air into the wells, remove the plugs, make sure the mating surfaces are clean, then reinstall and snug the plugs.
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Good point.


Yeah, I just fixed those vid links.


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Yeah, I just fixed those vid links.
Just gave it a listen. Yeahh the noise in yours is way different than the OP's or the one I had on the old ninja.
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Yea jackal yours was definitely the valves too lose or something. My ticking is more softer only at idle
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I took the spark plug out. Blew some compressed air inside and replaced it making sure it wasn't too tight. The ticking is still there. It is internal. Time to open the head
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Suggest reading this before removing the head. Lapping the head to repair a head gasket BTW the compressed air was supposed to be used before taking out the spark plug, to keep debris from getting into the cylinders.

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I don't plan on going that deep. The bike only had 7500 miles on it. Why would I need to do that right now
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I took the spark plug out. Blew some compressed air inside and replaced it making sure it wasn't too tight. The ticking is still there. It is internal. Time to open the head
misleading, I think you meant valve cover?

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