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EXL Motorcycle Gear

OK, I know it usually isnt a good bet to skimp on gear. For that reason, I wear Shoei's Rf1k. BUT. To a point, what is the cost a reflection of? We all know that Icon is basically a labled version of HJC helmets, yadda yadda....but I have been looking for a jacket for my g/f, and found this brand...EXL. It looks to me to be geared(haha gotta love puns) for cruisers, but I have found plenty of stuff I could def be in. I found overpants (something i need desperately) and also a couple jackets for me too! This basically appears to be an ebay special, and it is all beautifully priced. The have 2 year warranties and 105% return guarantees. I called the company and spoke with a manager, and it is very legitimate. They are VERY generous with everything, and want you to be TOTALLY pleased with what you buy. (I say this so if it doesnt hold up, i dont see why they wouldnt want to help you) Also, their warehouse is like 30 minutes from me, and I'm thinking about stopping by to check some things out, you know for assurance reasons.

Let me get right to it: Their gear looks good, its priced good, and it is described well too. What I am reading sounds like it is B+ in quality, and every discription is pretty thorough. I am attaching a link to a jacket I want, and keep in mind this is the most expensive one they have. Although the other Sport jackets are 69.95...they have similar features. Read about the make-up and CE armor....600D is pretty high...What do you all think, and have you heard anything about them? Thanks all

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LOL so here are those links i promised! :P

Overpants:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXL-M...Q5fMerchandise

Jacket for me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXL-M...Q5fMerchandise

Jacket for her (ladies...opinions on 'cute-ness'??)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MJ121...Q5fMerchandise

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Just few things I noticed reading the description. It is made of a mystery fabric called Maxdura which could be pretty much anything. It also does not have reinforcement patches on the wear spots like knees which could be a bad thing if the base fabric is not heavy duty. You'll need to verify if the stitching type - single, double or triple. Most decent gear is heavily stitched (triple) to help prevent the seams from bursting in a slide. If you can return it if it turns out to be crap might be worth ordering just to see. Hope you post a review.




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From what I found on google...Maxdura is a high-density nylon that is anywhere from 200 denier to 1000D. Made in scuba suits, combat rainsuits and high-pressure pump hoses...I will look into the stitching...good call.

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If Maxdura is similar to Cordura, 600D is about 1/3 the performance of 1000D or leather.

http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtm...afety_clothing
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off brand gear....?

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Heh, dude you can find the exact same jackets as "brand" gear for much cheaper, because they don't have a brand on them. They're both made in the same place, but one is marked up because it says Joe Rocket or Kawasaki on it.

Not all the time of course, and I'm not saying that's the situation here.
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It seems to me I investigated that gear somewhat by googling it to see what others had to say, and it wasn't good.
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http://www.leatherup.com/c/Womens-Mo...0880767913216D

There you go.
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http://www.vegasbbb.org/bbb_rated_ac...2C18%2C19%2C26

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I have ordered from leatherup a bunch of times already with ZERO problems. I don't really know why they have a bad BBB rating, but search any motorcycle forum, and people generally have good experiences. Call them up and talk with a CSR if you have doubts. I even had to return something in exchange for a different size, and they processed that very quickly and smoothly.

My only guess is other leather/motorcycle gear companies filing bogus reports because leatherup prices them out of business.
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haha, you're kidding yourself buddy. hold up a piece of leatherup gear next to a piece of gear from a legit manufacturer, and you will see the difference. thinner leather, no armor (or if they do have armor it's typically not CE), crummy stitching.... the list goes on. it's more like garment/casual-wear leather (if it's even genuine leather) than protective gear.

It's also a known fact that they filter out product reviews that are unfavorable. At least one or two people here have submitted negative reviews that were never posted on the website.
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I agree, the quality probably isn't going to be as great as other manufacturers. But if you're on a tight budget, they have some pretty decent stuff.

I've gotten shoddy gear from well known manufacturers, so there's always a risk no matter what. And I'm speaking from personal experience, whereas everything you know about leatherup is hearsay.
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http://www.viewpoints.com/LeatherUp-com-reviews
http://members.clnk.com/whip69/leatherup.htm
http://www.thethingsiwant.com/site/leatherup.com/
http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...m-c196104.html
etc.

I mean, if you want to spend $80 on a garbage jacket, then be my guest. Certainly, you can find a leather jacket somewhere online for $80. Just because it's leather and it's actually that cheap doesn't make it a good deal, if it's a piece of sh!t. Save your pennies or shop the closeout sections on respectable websites.

P.S. The bbb doesn't lie.

P.P.S. If you're on a budget, shop for closeout gear. It may not be your preferred styling, but you get good quality. Example: http://newenough.com/closeouts/barga...le_jacket.html
I've ridden over 10K miles in this jacket over the past 3 years. When I bought it, it cost $90, and it was a helluva deal then, because it's every bit as nice as any other leather jacket around, imho. And you're getting it from a place that will give you a refund or exchange if you ask for it. And a place that makes a point of not selling gear that they don't like or don't think is worth the money.
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http://www.viewpoints.com/LeatherUp-com-reviews
http://members.clnk.com/whip69/leatherup.htm
http://www.thethingsiwant.com/site/leatherup.com/
http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...m-c196104.html
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I mean, if you want to spend $80 on a garbage jacket, then be my guest. Certainly, you can find a leather jacket somewhere online for $80. Just because it's leather and it's actually that cheap doesn't make it a good deal, if it's a piece of sh!t.

P.S. The bbb doesn't lie.

P.P.S. If you're on a budget, shop for closeout gear. It may not be your preferred styling, but you get good quality. Example: http://newenough.com/closeouts/barga...le_jacket.html
I've ridden over 10K miles in this jacket over the past 3 years. When I bought it, it cost $90, and it was a helluva deal then, because it's every bit as nice as any other leather jacket around, imho. And you're getting it from a place that will give you a refund or exchange if you ask for it. And a place that makes a point of not selling gear that they don't like or don't think is worth the money.
Ok, and amazon.com gets a 6.5/10 rating on resellerratings.com, target has a 3.5/10 rating, and thousands of other stores that are legit and generally don't have problems have terrible ratings. People only write reviews when they're PISSED. You don't hear from the other people who are out riding.

Again, I won't guarantee that you'll have a problem free experience with leatherup. But I HAVEN'T. I've bought from them on three separate occasions, and each time everything was as advertised, and everything came very quickly. None of it was shoddy quality. (I've had a button break off on my A* jacket, and a zipper on my joe rocket pants, but no zipper or anything ever broke on my leatherup jacket, go figure)

I'm done arguing with you.
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one final note.

Don't skimp on gear. Shop closeouts if you have to, but don't let money be a reason to ride around in no gear or in low-quality gear. If you can't afford good gear, then you can't afford to ride, in my opinion. If you bought a bike but didn't leave money for gear, then you did something wrong. Park the bike for a few weeks or a month (hell, it's winter anyways) while you save up for decent gear. I bought a decent jacket, helmet, and gloves weeks before I bought my first bike, and I upgraded my gear with every penny I had, even if it still meant going with closeouts to upgrade from a mesh jacket to a leather one. No regrets here. And I was a poor college kid (well, some things never change :P now I'm a poor grad student) when I was getting started motorcycling.

Hell, they don't even list the thickness of the leather for their jackets, much less the type of leather.

It's your money. Waste it however you want to.

If you want to say "Look, Ma, I got a leather jacket" and you only have $50, then I guess head over to LeatherUp.com. If you're shopping for protective gear, shop elsewhere.
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Check out http://www.ironpony.com/ironponydire...utproducts.asp too
I just bought a leather jacket from them for colder weather riding.

Also, http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/ has good deals.
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^ Yep, I've bought from both.

I have a pair of boots from LeatherUp. They are the hiking boot type. I have no problems with the quality, but they did really screw up my order. I ordered size 10 and received a pair (2) boots. One was size 10 and the other size 8. So I had to ship them back, at their expense. It took them about 4 weeks and several phone calls to get the order reshipped back to me. Luckily they were the right size and both the same when I got them. They are what they are. Basic boots that won't prevent your ankle from twisting, but will protect from hot pipes, rocks, etc. They do have a nice grippy sole and are easy to shift in.
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Also, I have gotten "like new" (meaning rarely worn or still in the original plastic, but not sold by a store) jackets and pants on ebay for pennies on the dollar.
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Thanks for all the input gals (and gals!). The reason for getting gear this time around is that I am headed for colder weather, and the jacket I have is pretty much only for one temp: 70s. The zippers are drafty, the pocket zippers popped off, and the leather is getting worn. It has over 20k miles on it, and has been through two winters. Countless rainstorms and the list goes on. I've got good everything, I just want something that I can use all year, and from what I read, Textile jackets are the way to go. I'm def not going with leatherup, ive heard lots of bad stuff. I read all over the place about EXL and how they have super reviews. i even pm'd a guy on a jacket he bought and said that the stitching was fantastic, (i believe he said triple, with glued inside seams) and he said it felt as durable as his rocket jacket he wrecked in. granted thats just a 'feel' test, but im not convinced, so no worries. I'm going to call and ask what kind of testing, and gurantees they have. No way am i getting a helmet, but DOT has their buckets listed on the approved list...hmmm.

Thanks again, i'll keep you guys updated.

EDIT: I read just a minute ago that one guy researched them, and found that their gear was made elsewhere, shipped to korea for branding, and then bought by moto-direct. He said that someone he talked to in the distributor's world or something said that EXL is well known for buying off of big manufacturer's rejected designs, and paying for their manufacturing by a subsidiary. I'm going to call motodirect, and see what they say about contacting the manufacturer. thanks again, i love this place!

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Do a google search for motorcycle suppliers in your area! I got a pair of $200 Alpinestar pants for $140 because the a dealer I called wanted to get rid of them. Someone had ordered them but never picked them up. Since motorcycle parts were their bread and butter, they just wanted them out of the store. Not worth it to keep one pair of pants on the shelf and in the system. Spend a little time doing research and you could save money!
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Joe Rocket Alter Ego Pants $100
http://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,20350.0.html

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It turns out I have an EXL motorcycle jacket that came with my motorcycle. I don't use it since I already have gear and honestly barely looked at it till this thread. I don't know what model of EXL jacket it is and can't find it online, but here is what I noticed about it:

Negative
1) Single stitching, looks like normal stitches off my sewing machine
2) material doesn't seem as sturdy as my Joe Rocket Jacket
3) It seems to have some armor but most of it is just padding, nothing in the jacket states the quality of the armor

Positive
1) Has more reflective stuff then many jackets I see
2) the liner seems warm
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To the OP: I don't know what size you need, but on Cleveland CL I saw an Alpinestars One-o-one jacket yesterday for $75. I have that same jacket and it is very good quality. I think it was size 38 and posted Sunday. Maybe the seller would be willing to ship it to you.
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roxy-how warm is it in cold weather...like 30* cold

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