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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 4-21-2017, 11:35 AM Thread Starter
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Still Not Sure What Happened

This happened last August, and I've replayed it in my head a hundred times since, but I'm still not sure what happened.

I was making a left turn at an intersection, and about halfway into the turn, I felt myself start to go down. I low sided on my left hand side, I skidded maybe a couple yards, and the bike a couple more. It ended up hitting the curb at just the right angle and with enough momentum that it flipped itself upright and landed in some bushes.

I was wearing a full smurf suit, so I was completely fine. The suit needs some of the abrasive panels replaced. Fortunately, I didn't hit any other cars. Unfortunately, this intersection is located right at the courthouse, which is next to the police station, so no slinking off and calling for a tow. A detective immediately throws on his lights and blocks traffic for me, calls EMS, the state trooper, and everything.

Luckily the detective saw the whole thing, and attested that I wasn't speeding or doing anything crazy, so the state trooper writes it up as a non-reportable incident, and even calls a tow truck for me.

The Damage:
- Cracked upper and lower fairings
- Cracked windscreen
- Sheared off the kickstand bolts(still attached by the cable)
- Stator cover cracked with a significant chunk missing
- Shallow gouge in front wheel rim
- gouge in front tire
- broken aftermarket left turn signal
- Dented exhaust pipe on LH side

The Incident:
Not really sure what exactly happened. I remember I was trying to make sure I made the green light, so I may have come in a little hotter than normal, but I've taken that corner a hundred times, and it didn't feel any different when I started my turn in (bike seemed settled, no excessive inputs, lean, etc.). Plus, the cop even witnessed it and said it didn't look like I was speeding or braking hard. There was a little water (or something) in the intersection, but it didn't look like it was in my line of travel (I would have had to cut the corner really close to perpendicular traffic waiting at the light).

My best guess is maybe I still had more front brake input than I realized when I started my lean in, and released it fully in the turn, taking weight off the front, and inducing the slide.
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The Aftermath:
I'm rebuilding now. I was in the middle of helping my buddy get his bike back on the road, when this accident happened, and it took longer than expected. And then I got caught up in a bunch of other projects around the house over the winter. Got a "new" stator cover off of eBay, and got that installed. Also got new headers, and have got them installed, but now thinking about new Delkevic stubbies (I liked the look when I had the cans off).

I had also ordered some dominator headlights a few years ago with the thoughts of eliminating the fairings, but decided against it. Decided I like the look without the fairings, so I'm going to mount the dominator headlights and see how that goes. Thinking about replacing the gauge cluster with a Koso unit, unless I can figure out a cleaner way to mount the stock cluster.

Also bought a new front tire. I need to check the runout to make sure the wheel isn't bent.

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Did the rear tire slide out first or did you lose the front end first. You said you had a moment "felt myself start to go down."

Could you say which tire lost traction first.

My guess is, since you were on the brakes while leaned over you exceeded available traction. You have much more stopping power when the bike is going in a straight line then you do when you are leaned over. Even at 15 mph I've seen riders lock the front end and be on the ground before then knew what they did wrong.


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It's hard to say because it happened so fast, but I think the front lost traction. It didn't feel like the tail tried to come around at all, just an instant of "lightness" in the handlebars before I went down.
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Yea, I would definitely say braking while leaned over was the cause of your crash.

The best analogy I can give you is this: If your total traction your tire has is one dollar. Lets say you spend 75 cents worth your traction to make your turn. Normally you would spend say 10 or 15 cents on braking, but you said you were going quicker then normal to make the light. So this time you used 30 cents of traction to slow, and you have now spent more traction then you have. That 5 cent overspending has steep interest, in the form of road rash and fixing a bike.


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