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post #376 of 388 (permalink) Old 6-7-2016, 1:11 AM Thread Starter
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My BOD is the 2016 GT250R, by Hyosung.

Hyosung have been making decent budget bikes for years and years and have popular bikes based on the Suzuki SV650, among others.
It is your BOD, so please, don't take what I write next out of context. It is simply the experience I noted with the bikes here in the US.

The Hyosung's did really poorly here despite their low prices. Their build quality leaves a great deal to be desired. That's judging from how many were stacked up outside our local dealer for "warranty" repairs. This on bikes that were barely a few weeks out of the show room floor.

The 650 was generally "thought" to be based on the Suzuki but is actually not. A bit farther back on this thread I wrote about the Hyosung 650 V-twin as it was to power the Fischer. That's where I wrote about the Hyosung 650 engine.....sean


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Yeah, Korean quality isn't Japanese. They sell huge numbers of small displacement machines in Asia though, along with Daelim. It's possible their smaller stuff is more robust.

I just like that it's a bit different to all the small single road bike/commuters on the streets here.


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Everyone seems to have a real hate on for Hyosung.
They have been making bikes under contract for other manufacturers for years. Bikes like the SV650, that Kawi/Suzuki dirtbike or the Kawi 650, to name a few.
Not just assembly, they make lots of parts too.
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Everyone seems to have a real hate on for Hyosung.
They have been making bikes under contract for other manufacturers for years. Bikes like the SV650, that Kawi/Suzuki dirtbike or the Kawi 650, to name a few.
Not just assembly, they make lots of parts too.
While they do make a V twin engine similar to the Suzuki 650 V Twin, it is based off a much older Suzuki design than the current Suzuki uses. It does not manufacture motorcycles for other manufacturers.

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BMW 1200 GS

Yeah I know I could have picked something obscure and rare but my bike of the day is my dream bike and about as common has Harleys.

Got to ride a few of these. The latest incarnation is my favorite. It just does everything supremely well, it has the agility, and flickability of a smaller bike but the comfort of a large sport tour bike. It has amazing dynamic suspension that adjusts damping and preload with sensors in real time, has multiple modes for different road conditions, and a powerful engine with a linear torque curve. The regular model handles better than the adventure model as it is 50lb lighter and an inch lower. Despite it's height it has a very, very low center of gravity, not sure how they do it, and an extremely light clutch, lighter than a EX-500. Maybe one of the best all rounders every made. No surprise it is BMWs most popular model.


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Everyone seems to have a real hate on for Hyosung.
Have you ever looked at one up close? Fit and finish is sub par....and that's being polite. I can't say I hate on them....I am a realist though and calling a fart a fart isn't impolite, it's simply stating the obvious.

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While they do make a V twin engine similar to the Suzuki 650 V Twin, it is based off a much older Suzuki design than the current Suzuki uses. It does not manufacture motorcycles for other manufacturers.
This. Back in the BOD, I put the Fischer up as my BOD. Posted there is some good info about how Fischer was going to use the Hyosung engine in the production version, as well as a supercharged version of it. Research I did back then corresponds to what twowheels is quoted as writing above. In fact, the Hyosung engine, from my somewhat inaccurate memory, is not even a copy of a Suzuki engine but rather a similar design. It does not share parts in other words.

If what I have posted does not jive with what you know, please, provide a link that supports your statement. I can post a link if you like, that has images of Hyosung's line up. Some of it is downright ugly and the rest, well.....while it looks good visually, once you see one up close and in person it loses a lot of luster. I have personally seen a few of the GT650s and 250s up close....one, less than a year old....lots of rust forming on welds under the paint......plastics that don't line up (as purchased) and a myriad of other quality control issues that wouldn't fly on any other manufacturers products. Accepted though, due to the low price of the machine.........sean


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My Bike of the Day for today, June 8th, 2016 is:

Kawasaki Z1R 900 FACTORY Turbo. First factory turbo of the era. Basically, IIRC, Kawasaki bought a number of Turbo kits and installed them on a select few Z1Rs as they were delivered to Kawasaki HQ here in the US. The bike made like 135 HP back in 1978....kinda scary to think about. Only 250 were made.....in a cheesy powder blue no less. They didn't sell well, and had a reputation for handling and stopping poorly. Kinda like the H1 and H2s.


The TC Z1R was not ever intended to be turbo'd by the factory. The turbo was in fact, simply installed and that was it. No modification to the engine's compression nor additional bracing for the frame. Not even beefed up brakes. Just install turbo and sell to customer. The result was the engine could detonate relatively easily if boost pressure was dialed up to high. It was adjustable as delivered. No mods required.

The entire story can be read here: http://www.odd-bike.com/2012/12/kawa...o-turbo-z.html
Some stuff was not included in that article but what isn't I found here: http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/cl....aspx?PageId=1

The bike pictured is a 1979 model that was referred to as the TC2. It used a different turbo system designed by Turbo Cycle Corporation. It's still a 1978 model bike, just with the different system and paint. The paint work was done by Molly Designs in California and the paint job became known to some enthusiasts as "Black Molly" Believe it or not, buyers were required to sign a waiver absolving the dealership where the bike was purchased from any and all warranty claims. The "Black Molly" version sold out. Some 500 of them were sold in the US and Canada. Few survive today....which is why this particular bike is my BOD.....one is currently for sale on Bay Area Craigslist for the staggering sum of $16,000. A museum collection is being sold off, and it was part of that collection, on display in a museum for the last 20 years.........sean

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135 hp That thing must have been nuts.


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Thread Revival!

I do hope that the OP is doing well. His absence has been noticed.


My B.O.D for today 1/18/17 is the Aprilia ETX-150 Budget mini adventure bike.

Here, it retails around $1600 NEW with a years warranty and three year free servicing.



http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/a...dventure-bike/

My buddy, who owns a bar had me drinking in there a few nights ago and pulled up on one, threw me the keys. Took it around ten blocks. This thing is a Honda Grom killer. Better power, shocks, brakes, weighs nothing.

My bud got his secondhand, 1000km on it for $900, and it's fun. I could totally get one for city street and market hopping, maybe a little play on the grass if I felt like it.

It's a modern day trail 90, and for that reason, is my bike of the day.


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Cool thread. I'd like to see it active again!

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My bike for today, April 17th, 2017 is one of my dream bikes. I've posted the familial line here before, but not this specific bike.

Yes, a 996. This one though, this one is now mine. I found it listed on Bay Area Craigslist for a mere $4500. I contacted the seller, and I felt he was up front and honest with me. We agreed on a day to view the bike and I rented a box truck with a lift gate for the occasion due to a forecast filled with rain.

The Friday before, I texted the seller to ensure we were indeed still on for the following day and he asked if I could come down that night. I didn't even hesitate. Got my wife and threw my gear in the car. We drove down to Santa Clara through Friday traffic and still managed to get there in less than an hour.

We met the seller at his house, the bike checked out for me. No nonsense, exactly as depicted in the ad. Looked as splendid in the light of his garage as it does in the picture above.

As it stands, I've already spent a great deal of time and money getting it right, and there is still a ton of both to go to get it there. Hence my previous reasoning for not really wanting a 996. It is however, quite easy to work on.

So, my continued absence is not due to abate in the near future as I have a dozen or so other "irons in the fire" and time is now far more difficult to find and drop by here. I will be back in the future as I have several projects to share besides the one above. Later folks............sean


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Congrats on the beautiful new bike.

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Sweet nice bike! Congrats Sean!

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