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[dveldt]

Just saw this on another forum, nasty stuff. I value the use of my fingers thankyouverymuch.

[dragknee]

It occurs to me that using a brush or any other contraption while the bike is running could have some disastrous consequences. Yeah, it'll save your fingers, but, if the brush gits caught in the chain, it could mangle up your sprockets or chain. Or, worse, bend the countershaft. I, personally, go with a nasty chain and black wheels.

id rather mangle the sprocket than my hand lol.

but yeah the other guys got it right... the 3 seconds you save turning the wheel by hand is just not worth the risk. like i said, it never pays to be lazy.

[fetherston]

Put on gloves, soak a rag in kerosine, grip chain in rag, rub it down, move tire, rub it down, repeat until end. Hose off excess, dry and re-lube.

5 minutes, maybe.

[mtk1210]

AHH THE HUMANITY

[roxynoodle]

Not enough people work around "agricultural" machinery (right Roxy?). RULE NUMBER ONE: Turn off the tractor before servicing any moving parts. Then, for good measure, disconnect any hydraulics and remove the PTO (power take off) shaft. Also, don't get under anything heavy supported only by hydraulics. Hoses break and/or leak.

Kind of like "lock out, tag out" rules in industrial settings.

As society has become "urbanized," people haven't had first or second hand experience with people losing fingers, hands, arms or lives to heavy machinery. (Doesn't help that a basic "shop class" isn't required.)

Perhaps the "chipper" scene from Fargo should be required viewing prior to working on anything mechanical?

Okay, the cranky old guy will now go away.

Yes, offhand, I would say more people have lost life or limb in accidents with ag equipment.  It's not always stupidity; it's the attitude that comes with working with it all your life and thinking you're too experienced to have an accident.  People sometimes tend to get cavalier after a lot of time doing something.  I could tell you plenty of stories about 70 year old farmers getting caught in post hole diggers or the PTO.  You want to see gruesome accidents, google farm accidents.  Some of those pics nearly scared me away from tractors.

[ICTYellowBike]

Neighbor of my granddad died going through a combine with a corn head running. Just got out to clear some stuck stalks. (Sitting at desk shuddering at that thought!)

[Highlander]

I feel SO stupid, I almost lost two fingers doing this last week & just home from hospital. I am not posting photos!

Looks like I should make it back for spring though. I was feckin' lucky.

[ducatiman]

other than carb synch, i can't think of any other hands-on routine maintenance which should be done with engine running. this chain cleaning business is equal to using hands to clear clogged grass from the outlet of a running lawnmower. 

2 golden rules for newer mechanics.....

engine off while performing all hands-on maintenance (carb synch excluded)

DO NOT use gasoline for any cleaning purposes. It is dangerous and volatile. belongs inside the fuel tank only. 

........FWIW
 

[highender]

Nope.  Don't need to see gratuitously graphic stuff . . . not since seeing the upper half of a sailor literally disappear before my eyes into an engine of a Navy S-3 Viking.   When the engines were retarded, the bottom half fell to the flight deck and flopped around.  When I realized what I had seen, I turned and tossed my cookies over the side of the ship.  NOPE!  No more unnecessary gore for me. 



http://www.remember.gov/HistoryOfSacrifice/DesertStorm/tabid/90/Default.aspx
(not the person, place, or exact plane)

[Deux]

I lube my chain like I used to to do it on my ten speed. I flip the bike upside down and rest it on the handle bars and seat.



Would this coincidently be the same guy who used the wrong fuel additive in his Gixer a while back?

nah vtec just kicked in

[seanski]

I'm not interested in clicking the link(s). All I have to say is... I wonder if he's still able to ride with fingers missing? Perhaps if he had thought of it that way, he wouldn't have been so lazy about his cleaning technique.

im pretty sure he WASNT thinking lol

[TokoMiko]

Why I'm I not surprised this came from Gixxer.com, those cluster fudges

5 bucks says it was his first bike.

[Pogo]

When the engines were retarded, the bottom half fell to the flight deck and flopped around.  When I realized what I had seen, I turned and tossed my cookies over the side of the ship.  NOPE!  No more unnecessary gore for me. 

I dunno how I missed this story. That's disgusting dude.

[redhedrednek]

this idea is like the beer dispensing fridge in fling it across the room form...how long does it take to get up and go get one, but i saw a guy on TV that built a unit that was remote controlled that had different positions it would fling to...and how much time was wasted in building the rig and perfecting it........

[epThorn]

this idea is like the beer dispensing fridge in fling it across the room form...how long does it take to get up and go get one, but i saw a guy on TV that built a unit that was remote controlled that had different positions it would fling to...and how much time was wasted in building the rig and perfecting it........

I'm sorry, but I think that is a really cool idea. My friends and I used to do crazy stuff like that all the time. It's not about the time it takes to get up and get one, it's about the... uh... um... not sure now... we all had some head injuries from various things...

[redhedrednek]

Not enough people work around "agricultural" machinery (right Roxy?). RULE NUMBER ONE: Turn off the tractor before servicing any moving parts. Then, for good measure, disconnect any hydraulics and remove the PTO (power take off) shaft. Also, don't get under anything heavy supported only by hydraulics. Hoses break and/or leak.

Kind of like "lock out, tag out" rules in industrial settings.

As society has become "urbanized," people haven't had first or second hand experience with people losing fingers, hands, arms or lives to heavy machinery. (Doesn't help that a basic "shop class" isn't required.)

Perhaps the "chipper" scene from Fargo should be required viewing prior to working on anything mechanical?

Okay, the cranky old guy will now go away.

Yes, offhand, I would say more people have lost life or limb in accidents with ag equipment.  It's not always stupidity; it's the attitude that comes with working with it all your life and thinking you're too experienced to have an accident.  People sometimes tend to get cavalier after a lot of time doing something.  I could tell you plenty of stories about 70 year old farmers getting caught in post hole diggers or the PTO.  You want to see gruesome accidents, google farm accidents.  Some of those pics nearly scared me away from tractors.

the sad thing about it is that OSHA only covers a business of any sort if it has a certain number of employees, thus family farms as a rule are overlooked. Ag eqip is heavy, cumbersome, and often times sharp. The subsistence farmer who doesnt have a shop full of mechanics to do his maintenance is gonna try it himself and get hurt. There are some guidelines for doing things right, but how many people want to read a bunch of legal jargin? They should hand out pamphlets with graphic pics to everyone about their specific business just to promote safety. Motorcycling needs to have a guy implanted onto a tree or car, a messed up hand from dumba$$ chain cleaning techniques, and a comparison of similar wrecks one with gear, one without. Im sure i could think of more pics to include but the mental image is already a bit unnerving.

[Incognitus Ninja]

I wish it was as simple as posting pics and warning signs, but stupidity is a constant and so is laziness.
I work in the heavy duty repair and maintenance industry and if I'm not careful I don't come home in one piece, or at all.

Agro and construction equipment is so dangerous that while I understand farmers and subsistence growers don't have the money to pay a mechanic or get parts, they really should at least take the time to know what they are doing before and the necessary precautions. So many people get killed each year because they didn't block up hydraulic components properly(if at all) or disable energy sources or even just simply removed the key and took the time to do a simple lockout tagout. Or just get killed out of ignorance. (PTO is ALWAYS off before going under equipment)

Is shaving 10-30 minutes off the repair time, or saving a couple hundred dollars really worth losing an arm, leg, or your life? No john deere, komatsu, case, caterpillar,  whatever is worth a single human life. It saddens me whenever I read about guys getting killed by accidents that were easily avoidable, but someone got stupid and/or lazy. They aren't the manager who has to tell the spouse that he/she isn't coming home today.

Please folks, be safe, even though it's something as small as a motorcycle, it can still injure you severely and even kill you, so please take advantage of the resources here to do the job right and safe.

Oh, and wear your safety glasses!

[AgentOrange]

engage brain BEFORE engaging hands. i think he got it backwards

[Highlander]

I feel SO stupid, I almost lost two fingers doing this last week & just home from hospital. I am not posting photos!

Looks like I should make it back for spring though. I was feckin' lucky.

I know 90% of the traffic here is around the north americans but just in case anyone is wondering I have almost total recovery which is amazing as I expected at least one amputation going into theatre. I can write and do most things, but can't pick up small/flat items or open stubborn jars as the smallest joint in my index finger fused straight. Just as well I have two hands!

And on the good news theme I had the 500 out for the first time since my accident on Friday getting it's MOT/safety, which it sailed through. God I love that sound of the open pipes and the tester didn't bat an eyelid. Apparently my numbers are illegal as it indicates road racing so I have to cross them with a gaffa tape or take them off. Shame as I think it just adds character, may just play dumb until I get pulled for it the first time, if ever.

[jimnet518]

Just looked at that thread again, and I just have to comment on something he said:

He was asked:

So uh.... can you still reach the brake lever..?

His reply:

lol, I ride with my lever adjustment all the way out..so I may have to move it in a couple clicks...but I'm 6'4 and have pretty long fingers so I may be alright.

My response:

You mean you HAD pretty long fingers. LOL

[helderman86]

I saw a video on the 1st page of this post... It showed a cleaning kit... What is a good cleaning kit? Is there anything cheaper than the UK's "Chain Max", but similar in design??? Thanx guys

[lakermech]

Nasty!! but interesting.  I was wondering what my finger bones looked like a couple days ago.  I was trying to hold a flaslight under my finger but all I saw was veins.  Now I know what my finger bones look like.  <-- no joke, real story I got pretty bored on the boat.

http://www.google.com/images?q=phalanges&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1366&bih=575

Its a shame I cant show you my anatomy books. For med school we have some pretty gruesome pics.