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[triple88a]

perforated leather jacket works just as well.

[Snow]

I can understand the whole 'it's too hot to wear leather' argument. I did have one kind of scary moment last summer where I wore a t-shirt and because it was so humid, I could not get my jacket off. It was stuck to my arms and wasn't budging. However, this summer I'm all about the moisture wicking undersuit. I recommend one for sure. I recently wore one to try on 1-piece suits and you'd think a full body suit would be hot, but I found the opposite. Even with my 700 weight down jacket over top, I was freezing with it on. Proof enough for me that they work and would make summer riding more comfortable.

Leather + summer weight wicking undersuit = win! 

can you explain this suit to me? I wore mesh all last summer, but I wanna start wearing my leathers year around. Last year I would take a t shirt and soak it b4 leaving, but it would dry fairly quick.

[twowheels]

Roxy has graciously agreed to repost the jacket to me. The price came out to be less than $150US with a coupon doing it this way.

[phred]

can you explain this suit to me? I wore mesh all last summer, but I wanna start wearing my leathers year around. Last year I would take a t shirt and soak it b4 leaving, but it would dry fairly quick.

something like UnderArmor, I believe... 

[redkow97]

Those who would give up Essential Protection to purchase a little Temporary Comfort, deserve neither Protection nor Comfort.

Appologies to Ben Franklin.  

I tend to agree, but there are those who simply think "I'd rather be comfortable on the bike the 99.5% of the time i'm not crashing, and deal with the pain the .5% of the time I do crash."

I think that's a stupid rationalization, but it's not my choice to make for others. (the guy who said that only wore gloves and a helmet)

[twowheels]

I find the tshirts designed for running/sports do the same thing. Their made out of some sort of light synthentic instead of cotton, that does not absorb perserpiration, plus they're cheaper and easier to come by than motorcycle branded stuff.

[Forbin]

Sportbike Track Gear have a Cycleskins 1-piece moisture-wicking suit that is much like the Alpinestars one. I got one along with my A* MX-1 suit last year and it's much better than wearing a t-shirt.

I still wore boxers with it all year, but this year I'm switching to Underarmour boxer briefs.

[in4mation]

I find the tshirts designed for running/sports do the same thing. Their made out of some sort of light synthentic instead of cotton, that does not absorb perserpiration, plus they're cheaper and easier to come by than motorcycle branded stuff.

The stuff I use for running and working out is like perforated fabric. It dries in an instant. I can see how it would dry in one area (near a vent) and pull moisture from another area.

[Snow]

so are we talking about under armor?

I have  a few under armor shirts that claim to absorb sweat and stay dry. I shall try I s'pose when summer arrives.

It is crazy humid and hot here in Texas during the summer.

[redkow97]

it's not really the temp that makes you hot, it's your body's reaction to it (perspiration). Dry heat is never as hot as humid heat.

I'll qualify that statement a bit.  Your advice is sound, but the physics are a bit off.

Heat is heat.  (heat is energy, and cold is the absence of energy)  Your body's natural reaction is to sweat to cool yourself off, but the EVAPORATION is actually what takes the heat energy away from your body. This is not unlike coolant passing through your engine.  The cool water absorbs heat energy from the motor and flows away from it - then the radiator provides maximum surface area, and air-flow to let that heat escape, or 'radiate' into the air.)

Without evaporation, you're just hot AND wet.  That's why you feel cooler when you're moving.  It's still 90 degrees out, but the air-flow speeds up the evaporation process (and prevents your radiator from simply heating the air around it to a temp equal to its own).  "dry heat" just means that the air has the ability to absorb more moisture, because it's not already saturated. 

I'm sure the FL riders can tell us all about those days (weeks?) where the humidity is literally 100%.  Nothing evaporates.  Fans are completely useless as a means of cooling you off, because the air simply can't take any sweat (holding heat-energy) away from you.

The wicking shirts attempt the same 'evaporation' principle, except the shirt draws the water away from your skin without the need for air-flow.

[roxynoodle]

Roxy has graciously agreed to repost the jacket to me. The price came out to be less than $150US with a coupon doing it this way.

Yep, if anyone else in Canada needs help getting something, just let me know.  I'm home most of the time and the post office is only a 4 min drive.

I did get stuck in my leather pants last summer.  Now I have some perforated ones and some mesh ones as well.

[fourflush]

^The higher volume of water (humidity) in the air results in a lowered ability for your body to evaporate moisture (sweat). Thus, the higher the humidity, the hotter one feels. I don't know why you would even want to argue that.

Probably because you were wrong?  That would be my guess.

After all, it's not really the temp that makes you hot, it's your body's reaction to it (perspiration).

This is just wrong. High air temperature and your bodies natural generation of heat make you hot. Perspiration is a response to that that looses efficacy as the humidity rises.   redkow made a minor correction to your statement then provided a detailed and well worded explanation of why a person feels hotter when the humidity rises. 

I'm not sure how you can read that post as see an argument.  Seems like someone really doesnt like to be told that they are wrong.

[Snow]

I sometimes wonder why I'm bothering here with all these ego cases.

C'mon storm. You never have an ego case?    Let the children play.

I live in hot humid Texas. I can attest that the humidity makes you "feel" much hotter. While you may not actually be hotter, it makes you FEEL hotter.

Since this is about comfort, we are concerned about how we FEEL.

Ever seen the weather channel display a temperature and then say "feels like?"

Yeah that's why.

[Jrocket]

Lets face it, motorcycles are not about feeling comfort.  If we wanted to be comfort we would be in a car with air conditioner and a radio and cup holders.  But we choose to ride a motorcycle so clearly comfort is not our first priority, nor should it be while we are riding.

[moped]

I sometimes wonder why I'm bothering here with all these ego cases.

C'mon storm. You never have an ego case?    Let the children play.

I live in hot humid Texas. I can attest that the humidity makes you "feel" much hotter. While you may not actually be hotter, it makes you FEEL hotter.

Since this is about comfort, we are concerned about how we FEEL.

Ever seen the weather channel display a temperature and then say "feels like?"

Yeah that's why.

You idiots are arguing the same opinion! 

[dad]

I sometimes wonder why I'm bothering here with all these ego cases.

C'mon storm. You never have an ego case?    Let the children play.

I live in hot humid Texas. I can attest that the humidity makes you "feel" much hotter. While you may not actually be hotter, it makes you FEEL hotter.

Since this is about comfort, we are concerned about how we FEEL.

Ever seen the weather channel display a temperature and then say "feels like?"

Yeah that's why.

You idiots are arguing the same opinion! 

I was just getting ready to post the same thing. Well, not exactly the same.

My reading of all of those posts is that you're all adequately and accurately describing the same thing. Underarmor (or equal) really does help, especially once you're moving. Improves the effectiveness of a perf leather jacket by multiples. Plus, it makes your junk look better.

[Snow]

Yeah... I was actually agreeing with storm. There was supposed to be sarcasm.

Text fail.

[newton2]

[roxynoodle]

Hey TwoWheels, your jacket hasn't arrived yet.  I was really hoping it would be today because we have another huge storm coming beginning tomorrow morning and ending Wednesday night.  Lots of wind coming at the end of it.  8-12" of snow here.  If it arrives tomorrow I'm quite sure I can get it to the post office.  If it's Wednesday or Thursday it will depend on the snow level emergencies.  Of course if it's level 3, which makes it illegal to drive, it probably won't be delivered those days anyway!

I'll definitely let you know when it arrives. 

[twowheels]

Hey TwoWheels, your jacket hasn't arrived yet.  I was really hoping it would be today because we have another huge storm coming beginning tomorrow morning and ending Wednesday night.  Lots of wind coming at the end of it.  8-12" of snow here.  If it arrives tomorrow I'm quite sure I can get it to the post office.  If it's Wednesday or Thursday it will depend on the snow level emergencies.  Of course if it's level 3, which makes it illegal to drive, it probably won't be delivered those days anyway!

I'll definitely let you know when it arrives.  

No worries, my bike is hibernating in my basement next to the washer/dryer and is currently being used to hang laundry on plus there is 2ft of snow on the ground, so I think it is going to be a long time yet before I need it.

[roxynoodle]

Your bike is lucky to be in a basement, lol!  Mine is hibernating in the corncrib with only a cover to protect it.  Well, still, I'll let you know when it arrives and is on it's way!