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"Note this ride will be (respectfully) closed to all others".

This became my motto when I became a racer. Only then did I notice how bad most street riders were. It came down to only my 2 sons (also Racers) or a very few well selected others. Tried to teach my Nephew once. "Just follow my line" and I look in the mirrors and see he's 4 feet off. " no I mean in my wheel track" same result. the he says but you went right to the the pavement edge, then back to the yellow line.
I gave up, as he had no Idea the the line I spoke of wasn't painted on the road.

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Though my focus is solely based on street riding, we all have our individual riding styles and preferences, use of lines, negotiating tactics in traffic...blah blah.

As David and I will be trading bikes at some point on this ride, I'd prefer to limit outside influences, at least where within our control.

Just 2 of us, affording plenty of forward/back room between us, enabling full, unimpeded use of our chosen individual lines is precisely part of my thinking. Hopefully traffic will be of minimal interference.

Just want to add this ride and intended tactics not to be interpreted to enable any form of "street racing"....I'd like to think we're both mature, capable riders and know better than to pull stupid stuff.

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Did the mansion run this morning....107 miles And the old carbed 900SS delivered 52 MPG. Beautiful morning out there on the bay and ocean area of Southampton.

Got my expired county parks "green card" updated, I'm a senior citizen, btw.

Upon riding slowly towards exit a uniformed Parks Ranger commented "nice bike!"
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Solo 155 mile round trip out to Montauk Point lighthouse this early morning. Chose the dreaded major highway both there and back...on the road at 6:45AM, home by 11:30AM. Did a bit of trail walking out there, wonderfully cool temp.

Coming home, of course the legendary Hamptons traffic bit me. Hey, 30mph in a 55mph zone? Why? I asked for it not taking the back roads.

I usually subject myself to this once per year. Really nice out there, though, the 900SS did great as expected.
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Sooo.....I gotta ask, did the ride with @dmende0919 happen or.......? Was looking forward to his impressions of the "red" side.


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Weather and scheduling conflicts to this point. We'll get there.
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another 150 on my old 900 today...pics..."the end of the road", yes, it IS the Hamptons, pizza and Snapple early lunch at Astro pizza in Amagansett

Early up and out...also hit Gerard Drive Beach in Springs, Sag Harbor, Cedar Point Park....Hampton villages were incredibly busy, vibrant, tons of bicyclists, walkers, runners, traffic in town. Great to be alive, a fun ride. Amazingly, traffic not bad at all on my early swing home.

Hey, if I can do a couple of 150+ days within a week, fair to say I'm back in good riding shape again.






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Well, I finally got to take ducatiman up on his offer to ride the SS800. The ride was about 140 miles including my trip out to Long Island. There were some great turns and straights for me to get a feeling for the bike. Here's a summary of my observations

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It's definitely a different experience compared to my Zx7r. For starters, the duc is over 100 lbs lighter. When setting up for a corner you don't have to muscle the bike into position. There's not as much input required to change your line mid turn.

Initially, it was odd to keep the bike in a specific RPM range. The SS800's motor really shines above 3000rpm! The torque was no joke.

The riding position was comfortable, it was not as race orientated as the zx7r.

One thing that really stood out to me was the feeling of the gearbox. Each gear clicked into place with a satisfying clunk. I often find myself hitting a false neutral between first and second on the zx7, I probably need to adjust the angle of the shifter.

The brakes felt great. The bite was stronger than that of the Zx7r in fact, it actually caught me off guard a few times.

All in all, it was a great experience thanks to Ducatiman for trusting me with the SS800.

I've included a few photos of the ride below.
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And I equally appreciate your trusting me on the ZX.

A fun ride, thankfully early AM....was it my imagination or were we repeatedly following dozing SUV's yesterday?
On way home I had a SUV doing 20 in a 30 hitting his brakes on straightaways.....no one on the road in front of him. Also, heat became a factor later on.

My thoughts on the ZX
*fantastic power curve (no surprise there...very successful carb work!)
*comparative weight was evident (ditto)
*clutch, gearbox, brakes,suspension all competent
*tires excellent resulting in cornering confidence, though slower steering response (weight differential) requiring some forward thinking. This became quite obvious when changing lines playing "dodge the pothole"...the Duc reacts instantly with very little physical input...the ZX wants a bit of a push.
*considering my age....the expected Ricky Racer riding position offered slightly less legroom than the Duc, and forward lean clearly not for me, though not any more comfortable nor worse than the 800.

It was fun, 2 very able bikes were severely limited by outside influences (speed limits, traffic), though we were able to open up in certain areas while being respectful to one anothers' properties.


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I'm resigned to somehow significantly raise the clip-ons on the 800...I'm not comfortable living with it as-is, the current wrist down riding position ruining what could be a quite comfortable stance. As there are fairing clearance issues involved....a great '19-'20 winter project. (Ouch, sorry for even bringing up the W word, folks!)
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Well, I finally got to take ducatiman up on his offer to ride the SS800. The ride was about 140 miles including my trip out to Long Island. There were some great turns and straights for me to get a feeling for the bike. Here's a summary of my observations

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2007 Ducati SS800

It's definitely a different experience compared to my Zx7r. For starters, the duc is over 100 lbs lighter. When setting up for a corner you don't have to muscle the bike into position. There's not as much input required to change your line mid turn.

Initially, it was odd to keep the bike in a specific RPM range. The SS800's motor really shines above 3000rpm! The torque was no joke.

The riding position was comfortable, it was not as race orientated as the zx7r.

One thing that really stood out to me was the feeling of the gearbox. Each gear clicked into place with a satisfying clunk. I often find myself hitting a false neutral between first and second on the zx7, I probably need to adjust the angle of the shifter.

The brakes felt great. The bite was stronger than that of the Zx7r in fact, it actually caught me off guard a few times.

All in all, it was a great experience thanks to Ducatiman for trusting me with the SS800.

I've included a few photos of the ride below.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the "late" model Supersport with us. I know, just from trying them on for size in show rooms back in the day, that they were a more committed riding position than the older "early" model Supersports.



As I once owned a ZX-7, I was interested to see what your thoughts were on the differences. Pretty much what I was expecting your thoughts to be, honestly. To be honest, I thought my ZX-7 was probably the most comfortable sports bike I've ever owned. Has the GSXR of the same era beaten, hands down in that department.



As for the false neutral, that was common on the ZX-7. I tried a Factory-Pro shift kit on mine. It improved things somewhat.It still wasn't perfect but the false neutrals were reduced significantly.



I'd only find it once and a while between 1st and 2nd. It didn't do much for the one between 4th and 5th when hard on the throttle though, nor the one between 4th and 3rd on rapid down shifts.



It was easy enough to avoid the 4th to 3rd falsie by slowing down my down shifts and being more deliberate. It was mostly unavoidable before the shift kit.



Glad you enjoyed your time on the Supersport though. Aside from comparisons to the ZX-7, did it open your eyes to anything "Ducati" that you hadn't considered before? ........sean


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I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the "late" model Supersport with us. I know, just from trying them on for size in show rooms back in the day, that they were a more committed riding position than the older "early" model Supersports.



As I once owned a ZX-7, I was interested to see what your thoughts were on the differences. Pretty much what I was expecting your thoughts to be, honestly. To be honest, I thought my ZX-7 was probably the most comfortable sports bike I've ever owned. Has the GSXR of the same era beaten, hands down in that department.



As for the false neutral, that was common on the ZX-7. I tried a Factory-Pro shift kit on mine. It improved things somewhat.It still wasn't perfect but the false neutrals were reduced significantly.



I'd only find it once and a while between 1st and 2nd. It didn't do much for the one between 4th and 5th when hard on the throttle though, nor the one between 4th and 3rd on rapid down shifts.



It was easy enough to avoid the 4th to 3rd falsie by slowing down my down shifts and being more deliberate. It was mostly unavoidable before the shift kit.



Glad you enjoyed your time on the Supersport though. Aside from comparisons to the ZX-7, did it open your eyes to anything "Ducati" that you hadn't considered before? ........sean

Well, in the future I would definitely like to have a Hypermotard. I had the opportunity to ride one 2 years ago at a demo event. It was a blast! Ducati's L-twin is a perfect match for a supermoto style motorcycle. Riding the SS800 somewhat reminded me of that experience.
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did approx 130 miles this morning to Shinnecock Inlet on the 900 .....so much cooler out there....a ton of activity....fishermen on the jetty, in boats, swimmers, beach goers.

The comfortable riding position of the go-to 900 allows to pile on miles...the 800 not so friendly. I'm committed to alter that in the future.

Pic.....when commuting from NYC to the Hamptons.....some simply use the helicopter.....so much quicker. There is a helipad on the opposite side of the inlet ....actually part of my frequent "Mansion run". Lady at the park was namedropping those using the helipad....Kardashians, Woody Allen, M Jagger...on and on.
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Forgot to add.....over the last few rides...the obligatory after ride oil checks have revealed no discernable burning of any oil.
At 25 year old nearing 36K on the clock I'm concerned and carefully monitoring as it does get "leaned on" in certain safe spots and areas, effortlessly cruising at 80+ or more on occasion.

I'm thoroughly impressed with this dependable, super reliable, simple, easy to maintain lump of a powerplant. Not to even mention its overall agility and stability, superb braking, relative comfort in a supersport package... all attributable to its overall fun factor.

No surprise why my "go to" IS my go to....consistently getting the key in the ignition.

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