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post #101 of 127 (permalink) Old 12-28-2019, 9:01 PM Thread Starter
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OEM's do outsource, they don't manufacture *every_single* component. I'd surmise some of those vendors are unable to keep up parts on an indefinite "forever" time basis...changing based on their target markets and mostly....profits, baby. Corporate solvency.

We're clearly not privy to OEM/vendor availability agreements....but as bikes approach 15-20 year old? I'd guess their contracts must end at some point.

Example...Keihin still actively making EX500 carburetors?
So many big money considerations, production facilities, raw products, trained employees, machinery, upkeep....
For a bike discontinued from production since 2009? Doubtful...or now fully transitioned into producing current market ECU's? Likely.

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OEM's do outsource, they don't manufacture *every_single* component. I'd surmise some of those vendors are unable to keep up parts on an indefinite "forever" time basis...changing based on their target markets and mostly....profits, baby. Corporate solvency.

We're clearly not privy to OEM/vendor availability agreements....but as bikes approach 15-20 year old? I'd guess their contracts must end at some point.

Example...Keihin still actively making EX500 carburetors?
So many big money considerations, production facilities, raw products, trained employees, machinery, upkeep....
For a bike discontinued from production since 2009? Doubtful...or now fully transitioned into producing current market ECU's? Likely.
Some very good points.

Parts availability as any vehicle ages depends largely on the continued popularity of that vehicle. For example, you can practically build a new vintage Mustang from a catalog. It's popularity has been so enduring that a whole industry of aftermarket manufacturers sprung up.

That's the case, to varying extents, for a number of vintage machines. There's typically a few of years of dry spell though, after the OEM stuff vanishes and the aftermarket taps into the demand for parts. I suspect that a few years down the road, the VFR (and the "lowly"ex-500) will benefit from continued support.
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Panic over....

Spoke too soon. Call me an idiot, or call me overly logical, but the water pump assembly/parts are not on the Water Pump fiche! Every other part connected in any way, shape or form is on the Water Pump fiche. The water pump itself is on the Left Cranckcase Cover fiche.

Seeing how bad the O rings are in the cooling system I have had to disassemble so far, I am planning on replacing the other O rings in the system for peace of mind. I'm already into the system and it's cheap insurance as far as I am concerned.

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orings aka "consumables"

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Spoke too soon. Call me an idiot, or call me overly logical, but the water pump assembly/parts are not on the Water Pump fiche! Every other part connected in any way, shape or form is on the Water Pump fiche. The water pump itself is on the Left Cranckcase Cover fiche.

Seeing how bad the O rings are in the cooling system I have had to disassemble so far, I am planning on replacing the other O rings in the system for peace of mind. I'm already into the system and it's cheap insurance as far as I am concerned.
That's what I call the "systems approach". On older vehicles, when you have to do a repair on a system you haven't touched yet, go through it, replace consumables, check everything over and make adjustments. You'll know the status of the system, making future troubleshooting easier, and the machine more trustworthy.
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I know I repeat but...whilst accessible, I strongly recommend a new thermostat. If no one has been in the V that far before (which appears to be the case) it is without doubt the original 18-19 year old unit, just begging to be put to pasture.

Easily worth the peace of mind, not having to dive in that far again for a long time. Hell, I went over the top and replaced my 20+ year old fuel pressure regulator (on the throttle body) as well.

Iridium spark plugs....haven't been inside again. No need. May replace the original spark plug wires and caps though, on my "when warmer" list, def time.

VFR such a resilient package, can't stress enough. Some dingbat on another forum attacking its "build quality", give me a freakin break.

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EX officially down for winter.

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EX officially down for winter.
What's the plan, or did you already say and I missed it?
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^ Just routine stuff as far as I know.

Truth be known I should replace a water pump in a Ranger this week. Especially since temperatures are going to be around 70 all next week. But I'm not committing to anything just yet .

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Carb fuel level check showing perfect levels. I think even better than when I set them a few years ago . Other side looks the same as this side, no need for a second pic . Carbs will be staying on the bike this year .

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Looks like 6 valves didn't move since last year. The 2 intakes on cylinder #1 had to be tightened from .007" to .006" .
Almost forgot to replace the oil pipes before replacing the valve cover again . Key words there are "almost" and "again" .

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Deep into this one right now -

1970 CL450 Scrambler

Before -



Currently -



I've seen less rusted pieces brought up from the Titanic -



After blasting -



After coating -



Some finished pieces -



Cleaning all the dirty or corroded fasteners takes about as much time as doing the powder coating.

Still plenty to do...


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^ That's looking sharp.

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nice work, J
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Love those old Honda twins. In my early days I rode an SL350 (13 yrs old, my buddy and I got pinned under that beast after overshooting a turn on a dirt road. There was a lot of flailing arms until I managed to lever it up enough with the bars that my buddy could slide out from under it. It later became my sole mode of street transport after getting my learner's permit) Later I owned a CM400T.

That 450 looks pretty darn nice.
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That is a sharp Honda.

I think speedy is due for a valve adjustment but I keep putting it off. Maybe I'll do it soon.

Oooooooooooorrrrrrr just build a 2nd motor since this one drinks oil

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Thanks guys.

Originally wasn't planning to take it all the way down, but as I started to look closer there was just too much rust on the frame everywhere.

I've had it for over 20 years, and had it running last year.

Paid $100 for it...

EDIT: Degreased/pressure washed it, spent some time in the oven to burn off any residual grease, then media blasted it -



Next step is more cleaning and a chemical conversion coat before some minor masking and powder coating.

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Got this done today -



Got some parts ordered, but still need to do a few details on the engine before it goes back in.
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Got this done today -

Got some parts ordered, but still need to do a few details on the engine before it goes back in.
You're off to a great start. You must have a pretty nice setup to be able to handle powder coating a piece that large.
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You're off to a great start. You must have a pretty nice setup to be able to handle powder coating a piece that large.
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I checked out the photo gallery. That's some nice work.
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Well I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later.
Bearings-a-comin

38 balls accounted for, I got one on the loose.

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Well I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later.
Bearings-a-comin

38 balls accounted for, I got one on the loose.
I trust you're tossing every one of them in the trash. You are going with tapered rollers, right?.
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^ I may go with tapered bearings next time. For the time being I'm going factory stock parts. Except for the actual bearing balls themselves (do to cost), I did a crunch test on one of the extras, and seem to be good.


Now nobody hate me because I'm stock pretty.

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That is so nice!!!
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