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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-27-2016, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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went down for the first time

Like the title says, I went down for the first time last monday. My bike is in pretty good shape because it ended up on some ones lawn. Only damage it had was a broken right turn signal, and a very small scratch on the right side of the head light. I crashed because I turned wide coming into the entrance of my neighbor hood and hit the center divider. After that I partially went up the divider then back onto the road, which caused my bike to start tank slapping. I was able to regain control of the bike, but I missed the turn and was heading straight into some ones yard. I panicked and grabbed the front brakes which caused the front to lock up momentarily right before I went up some ones lawn. The bike was on its side sliding in the grass and its front tire slid under a car. There was very minimal damage to both vehicles and I was able to ride away with minor injuries. After getting the bike checked up by a mechanic, I tried to ride as often as possible. What I noticed is that I am a lot more nervous and paranoid. My confidence has been cut down and I am not as comfortable riding as I was before. I'm just wondering what helped you guys regain confidence after going down because I love riding my bike, but I don't like how I am at the moment.
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I went down and my confidence took a huge hit.. any advice?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-28-2016, 2:24 AM
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Just get back on it and ride it.
Don't be paranoid, just be more aware.
More aware of your speed entering turns, more aware of road conditions, just more aware...

They're your nerves and only you can settle them and if you love riding then you're just gonna have to get back on and ride.

Glad you made it out mainly unhurt.
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yeah I second that. it is inevitable you are going to drop it at some point. you just have to learn from the mistake. it is psychological as you start very nervous. learn to ride. gain confidence and then drop it and the confidence goes out the window. but look at it as a positive you now know how not to do it. so just be aware of the mistake and ride on.

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If you fall off the horse and do not get up and ride it right away, you most likely will not do it again.

Ride again, slowly if you do not have enough confidence. Go know little by little your mount. Learn the way it responds to you as you increase confidence and speed. Practice how to take the curves of the road, how fast you can take them, how far you should lean, all without exceeding your skills.

Do not worry, the skill is acquired with practice and experience.

As Evil Monkey says, Don't be paranoid, just be more aware.

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If you want to learn from your mistake and not repeat it, think about what you were doing at the time, specifically, where were you looking? Too many riders have a tendency to look at the outside of a turn to make sure they don't hit anything--WRONG. Inevitably where you look is where you go. If you can remember, where were your eyes? What you should do is look into the turn where you want to be headed.
Not trying to ride you with guilt, just a real good way to regain confidence is to figure what went wrong, how to avoid it, then practice, practice, practice.
If you haven't already, go take the beginner's MSF class, it'll do wonders for your confidence and lower your insurance.


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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-28-2016, 3:41 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies guys. Yeah I think I target fixated on the divider which caused me to go wide. I also think I applied too much throttle before I fully pointed my bike for the corner. I already took the msf safety course before I got my bike. I was thinking of taking the intermediate and advanced courses when ever they're available. I am trying to ride as often as possible and when it isn't raining.
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it's all you can do. just keep riding and learn.

I had an off about 6 years ago. nut pulled out of a side street without looking. took the bike rear wheel out. I was right on top of the junction at the time and had no chance of avoiding the inevitable.

the impact threw me down the road, with the bike on top of me. for about 10 mtrs, sustained a broken ankle, shattered kneecap, dislocated hip, 3 broken ribs, dislocated shoulder, and broke my left wrist. [bike was a write off].

had 6 weeks in hospital and 7 months off work. a week after getting out of the hospital I was riding again all be it quite slowly. [yes pots and all] I knew if I didn't get back on I would probably never ride again.

even now 6 years later I am still wary of traffic at side streets. and take extra care. but nothing was going to keep me off a bike.

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12 years ago I went down at about 110 mph.
Slight curve I'd hit a thousand times before... but caught just a little dip that wiggled the rear... had to lock the back and lay it down.
288 ft. down the asphalt with the bike sliding in front of me.
Minor road rash and a shattered ankle... still in an air cast and all, I was out in the shop on a roller chair 2 weeks later putting the bike back together... 3 weeks after accident I took it for a test ride with air cast still on right ankle.
Had a few get-offs over my almost 30 years of riding...

Just get back on and keep on going.

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ETA: Had I not locked the rear and purposely laid it down to slide I would've wound up hitting a ditch and embankment head on... that rear wheel wiggle from the dip in asphalt threw my line off and I was going to head straight out of the curve.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-1-2016, 4:41 AM Thread Starter
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damn that sounds terrifying. I'm back riding and starting to feel a bit more comfortable.. I'm still a bit more hesitant on cornering and going quite a bit slower than usual. Hopefully the longer I ride, my cornering confidence will return.
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Practice, practice and practice some more.

Confidence returns eventually. I've busted myself up a few times too

If you can afford it; go and do a novice track day. You can find and push the limits in a safer environment.


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damn that sounds terrifying. I'm back riding and starting to feel a bit more comfortable.. I'm still a bit more hesitant on cornering and going quite a bit slower than usual. Hopefully the longer I ride, my cornering confidence will return.
First thing when I stopped tumbling was "Okay, not dead... need to get off asphalt before getting run over." And with cobwebs still in head I rolled off to the side out path of anyone coming up behind. Haha
No biggie... S*** happens when you go fast... S*** happens when ride slow... S*** happens when ride normal.
Moral of the story...? S*** happens... the key is to learn from it and do the best you can to avoid S*** again.
But it's still gonna happen.
Whether it's someone pulling out in front of you or hitting a slick spot or some tiny gravel.
Be aware of traffic and ride like people are out to kill you. Ride defensively.
Keep an eye on the road for oil, wet leaves, washed out gravel from a driveway in a curve...

Like I said... BE AWARE.

And do yourself a favor... don't keep a death grip on the bars.
Let them sorta float in your hands... curves included.
I ride with three fingers covering the clutch lever (I have short levers).
Means just my thumb and pinky are "holding" the bar.
Throttle is held with just thumb, ring, and pinky... Index and middle are on the front brake lever.
Takes very little to make the bike lean... wanna go right? Push the right side slightl while slightly pulling the left. Starts you leaning right.
Do the opposite to go left...
And just let the bars float in your hands.

You'll get back in the groove soon.

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