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Nice, I pass Laborghinis and Ferraris and Spaghettis too, seriously though out on the road its got more than enough power to get you where you want. Mine is nicer (read smoother, idles nicer) than the newer FI bikes I have worked on/ridden.

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I surmise you are kidding...passing is no indication of anything in a street setting.
Don't underestimate...you meet these guys in their element with an experienced, aggressive driver ....you're gonna have some major egg (or spaghetti sauce) on your face.

How did this subject migrate into the "spark plug tool" thread anyways?
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LOL when you live out in the middle of the no-where ie Everglades and commute during weird hours; you have the luxury of pretty much traveling as fast as you want. EX used to pass cars that cost 50,000 times the cost of my bike, I been around trust me, had my Nurburgring hat on today too/been there done that got the shirt and special credit cards.



We digressed, I may have high jacked the thread 'my bad' The key is "in their element." I never mess with cars in "their" element. I had someone harassing me on a Sunday once coming home from work where the road was remote enough that I was scared for my life and ended up exiting and waiting because the little EX did'nt have enough get away power to out distance a corolla. Don't even make eye contact with slack jawed mouth breathing car drivers, thats my rule of thumb. Peace out.


Oh, so its not a total loss, I use a Craftsman 18mm spark plug socket with a 3/8 wobble extension on a ratchet wrench - just saying Peace again.
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Spark plug socket

Yeah, hang on.....
Pics coming
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Any doubt, proof is in the pudding... pics

I used a Stanley 18mm grabbed out of the tool box because it was handy.
A 3/8" ratchet, 6" extention, deep well Stanley 18mm

Takes longer to get it done than it does to type it.

It's a tool thread according to OP and it was gonna be closed.
Close it now because I did what no one else did... disassemble and pics. 😲

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Why the compulsion to slap yourself on the back? Way prior to your posts, the OP was given tons of info, dimensions, suggestions ....way prior in this thread.

The ball clearly in his court....its incumbent upon him to actually "make it happen".
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AFA the resister/non-resister debate, I posted info right from NGK website, you may have missed it, I'll re-copy:

"The radio-frequency interference (RFI) noise generated by ignition systems can interfere with computer controls and on-board electronic systems of late-model vehicles. When used in combination with resistor spark plugs, NGK resistor cables provide exceptional noise suppression without negatively affecting engine performance."

If NGK and Kawasaki knew of a cheaper, better, safer, more efficient method of adhering to the above...they would have employed it.

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Why the compulsion to slap yourself on the back? Way prior to your posts, the OP was given tons of info, dimensions, suggestions ....way prior in this thread.

The ball clearly in his court....its incumbent upon him to actually "make it happen".
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AFA the resister/non-resister debate, I posted info right from NGK website, you may have missed it, I'll re-copy:

"The radio-frequency interference (RFI) noise generated by ignition systems can interfere with computer controls and on-board electronic systems of late-model vehicles. When used in combination with resistor spark plugs, NGK resistor cables provide exceptional noise suppression without negatively affecting engine performance."

If NGK and Kawasaki knew of a cheaper, better, safer, more efficient method of adhering to the above...they would have employed it.
Not slapping myself on back. I posted pics because it was asked to, by YOU.

Info for whomever reads and questions and searches because that's what the original post was about if I'm not mistaken.

Just so you know, my 2005 machine came with Denso plugs. That's cheaper better and lowest bid factory and I did them one better to make MY EX run top notch. I went down to 7 and non resistor... hot spark and MINE, runs and fires like it's a 1999 party.
Dunno what to tell you.

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Not slapping myself on back. I posted pics because it was asked to, by YOU.

Info for whomever reads and questions and searches because that's what the original post was about if I'm not mistaken.

Just so you know, my 2005 machine came with Denso plugs. That's cheaper better and lowest bid factory and I did them one better to make MY EX run top notch. I went down to 7 and non resistor... hot spark and MINE, runs and fires like it's a 1999 party.
Dunno what to tell you.

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"Close it now because I did what no one else did... disassemble and pics."

Not slapping yourself on the back? Yo-kay.

"I posted pics because it was asked to, by YOU."

Incorrect statement, you've got YOUR facts wrong. Challenge, review my posts in the thread, NO request for pics....nor any need. Various members gave OP every shred of information he could have possibly needed.

Re ignition components....I'm a bit more inclined to follow NGK's instructions and recommendations, thank ya'.

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Oh, c'mon... not again. Please don't make this a pissing contest.

The original question has been answered, there was already enough information about it and images were provided to prove that (almost) any conventional hexagonal 18mm long die can do the job. So, why not end this discussion here without making competition to see who has it bigger?
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Maybe this will lighten the mood!


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I use a breaker bar on a 1/2 in wrench with 4 6" extensions then a 1/2 to a 3/8 reducer, 2 more 4" extensions and a 18mm deep socket that I found on the floor of my grandfathers garage. I use forceps and a magnet on an extension to actually get the plugs out of the well.

And I once passed a Bugatti Veyron that was in the parking lot of a dealership in Denver.

Where the hell has this post gone to?
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my apologies for perpetuating, now considered way over on my part

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And I once passed a Bugatti Veyron that was in the parking lot of a dealership in Denver.

Where the hell has this post gone to?

I like your style - They say gullible people tended to eat everything put in front of their mahs as a child too.



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I got this 18mm wrench from the auto parts store. Does it look thin enough?
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Where the hell has this post gone to?
evidently right back to square one.

@ex-ninja, @bpe and I took the time to provide the outside diameters of what would, and would not work. You could have taken the figures to the store and have the guy measure the OD with a vernier caliper and confirmed fit before buying. We already know the 18mm is correct...by eye it looks ok in photo, a deep, thinwall ...but looking at a pic is clearly not as reliable as measuring.

At this point...simply try it and see if it enters the spark plug well.

Not beating you up here, but there comes a point you need to take some initiative.
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Ok if it looks like it might work then maybe I'll just try it.

But before I do I read that the spark plug can fall down and if it does it's hard to take out. It's not clear to me what that's about but should I get a tool like this just in case? https://smile.amazon.com/SE-8036TM-N.../dp/B01M7PSUX3
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Yeah, a magnet pick up would be great for picking up a spark plug. It could also come in handy for a possible mishap during a valve adjustment later.
But we will save that for another thread, another time. Good luck with the plugs.

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A piece of black, rubbery foam, rolled up, about 1" wide, cut a bit oversize...inserted into the deep end of the socket, it'll suffice as a "grab mechanism".

With the right thickness rubber (1/2 or 3/4) you could cut a tiny donut that would do the job..instead of rolling a piece. Be inventive. Use scissors, an exacto knife, single edged razor blade (OMG be careful please) whatever works for you.......

Experiment a bit (apply some inventive initiative) once you've sized it...use rubber cement to hold your donut device securely in place, deep inside the socket.
You can do this on the bench or kitchen table...using a loose spark plug and the socket in hand to easily check its ability to grab.

Ideally, with about 1/2" to 3/4" depth with the donut hole creating some interference fit over the plug tip and ceramic, it'll automatically, gently grab the plug to hold, pull out with gentle persuation, but not affecting full socket insertion and loosening at all... afterwards, the rubber is still glued, adhering to the plug wall allowing use over and over. If it breaks out, more glue, make another. Done right, it'll last.

That 18 is not a dedicated spark plug socket (they have a rubber grab device already installed) .....but no biggie...this a very simple DIY.

In the end, what you've done is just what a factory does...transform a "standard" socket into a dedicated "spark plug socket" with a cheap ole' piece o' rubbery foam.

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You seem to be new to wrench turning, and a little nervous to take that first step. I am not talking down to you, just trying to get you comfortable.

Start your bike and let it run for 10 minutes. Shut it down. Remove the seat and all of the fairings, carefully. Remove the gas tank.
LOOK at everything and identify what it is. Battery, airbox, carb, PAIR system... Get comfortable with seeing the inside of your bike. Adjust NOTHING. Remove Nothing. Take some pictures to ask questions later.
Now put it all back together, make sure that you have nothing left over. Start the bike and let it run for 10 minutes.
It may seem like you did nothing, but you just proved that you can put something back the way it is supposed to be.
Next time will not be as scary.

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You seem to be new to wrench turning, and a little nervous to take that first step. I am not talking down to you, just trying to get you comfortable.

Start your bike and let it run for 10 minutes. Shut it down. Remove the seat and all of the fairings, carefully. Remove the gas tank.
LOOK at everything and identify what it is. Battery, airbox, carb, PAIR system... Get comfortable with seeing the inside of your bike. Adjust NOTHING. Remove Nothing. Take some pictures to ask questions later.
Now put it all back together, make sure that you have nothing left over. Start the bike and let it run for 10 minutes.
It may seem like you did nothing, but you just proved that you can put something back the way it is supposed to be.
Next time will not be as scary.
Pretty perceptive there, John. Good advice.
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My experience was that I can't find any 18 thin wall socket..............so, I bought a 18 regular socket and took my Dremel to fix the lack of supplies................and.........Works....... very well.....
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^ hey, you made it happen, well done!

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