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Re: The Official Post Whore Thread

i was talkin to you when your old man took a digger lucky.  he must be doing better if you're keeping the bike. don't think for a minute that i don't give a sh*t about anyone on this forum.


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well what would you have done Gray?


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Re: The Official Post Whore Thread

dude,m all i said is that...

alright, here's what's going on.

Lucky, you and Gray want a Wiki because you don't like repetitive topics. alright, so we create a wiki with everything in it that could possibly fill it. what happens to the forum? someone posts a question that can be found in the wiki. what do you say? "Use the wiki?" yeah, it's shorter than "Use the search button" but you're still responding to a question that's asked a hundred times the same way you would have answered it had there been no wiki at all. then after answering 100 more questions with the same damn reply, we're still no where with a wiki. then basically that gets turned into a forum (Discuss a wiki entry) where people go back and forth with banter about SOMETHING.

it gets us no where lucky. a wiki would just be another FAQ section, which is just as frivolous here and now and it probably wouldn't be updated very oten, if at all. I'm not sure if you remember the days of EX500Riders.com or not, but there was a wiki there too. look how well that went over. it was basically a depository for how to's and specifications. i can't image it'd be much better here.


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what if someone posted a question in the off topic forum, three people were responding to it, one person says something about someone's avatar or signature, or location, those two people start jib jabbering with maybe one other joining in, and the op just kinda gets dumped to the wayside with maybe a useful reply here and there.

i know as a original poster, i wouldn't stick around to dig through it all and i'd unsubscribe from the thread.

what would you do then?


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Re: The Official Post Whore Thread

the organization is great, i agree... it's set up right for what it's supposed to do. who would you propose manage it?


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If a valid question has been asked, and it hasn't been pretty exhaustively answered before people go off topic, then the original poster has been wronged. If it's a simple question with a single answer, then it's no big deal if people go off topic afterwards, in my opinion.
Then you and i disagree. every question ends in a single answer. getting there is sometimes a struggle. i'd like there to be some kind of linear dialog so that thoughts processes can be gathered. it seems all it takes is one "tard" to say something about someone else that blows a whole discussion wide open and if it gets back on track, no one knows where the answer was. don't you find that REALLY ANNOYING?


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I don't think a wiki would kill the forum. And if the forum only exists for us to exchange information and educate ourselves, then a good wiki would serve the same purpose.
right, so why spend money on SQL calls for a forum if the wiki cuts back on cost? i see no reason to keep a forum up if it's just going to be, "Use the Wiki" or "Did you search the wiki" every other post. 250.org has a good wiki with a good administrator. someone keeps up with that pretty regular. i honestly don't think that would happen here.


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and i know i couldn't do it either.  i can't guarantee to dedicate the time or organization it would take, not to mention the basic ins and outs of how a wiki works...


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i think it's going to be just fine. if it ends up another ex500riders, then it ends up another ex500riders. i'd be a shame to loose such a great place, but i can't cry over spilled milk.

but i did enjoy the music. that was really catchy.


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ya know , you're not the captain of the ship ..... so there would be no shame if you dont go down with it .
god damn right. but this is the USS Titanic. we build shit right. when we hit a iceburg, it better be laden with nukes if it's going to take us down (what can i say, i'm a believer)! hahaha!

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that was the RMS Titanic.


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All I can say is wow , I went to see a movie and came back and decided to see what was happening here and it was 2 pages now . I enjoy the forum here ,I like all the good stuff that gets talked about ,and even the crazy off topic stuff , it's nice to find out a little more about other people from where ever they are ,and see other peoples opinions even if I don't agree and most are happy to tell you why it is theirs. If people only wanted tech. answers they would buy the manuals and this site would not exist ,what would be the point?
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i'll be fazing out over the next few days ...
Sorry to hear that , take it easy then.
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I'm starting to think my question has'nt been answered and now I'm all hurt or what ever , y'all think we can stay on subject ,haaaaaaaaaaa

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it gets really annoying. what do you do with threads like that? Let them go? then no one would read them, or even bother to come back to them. i know i wouldn't. i've unsubscribed to many threads around forums that I MADE that get out of hand.
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I like the forum the way it is. Noobs should be able to come in and ask a question. If noone wants to respond they will find out how to use the search button (or wiki, or faq). If someone wants to respond, that's their typing.

I see the forum as a hang out. You come in, maybe ask about something. Some things have a manual, point to where the manual is. Other things don't, or have changed, so you ask around the table. Sometimes the conversation is about bikes, sometimes it will stray.

We all started out as noobs, and now we are all at mixed levels of experience, and half the point of the forum is to help other noobs or those with less experience. The other half should be to visit, arrange rides, share experiences, pics and such.

Maybe I'm way off my rocker and don't know anything about forum etiquette, but this place has proven very beneficial to me this way. I regret I don't have time to take pics and share more of my (mostly maintainence) experiences, but will work on it.

I like everybody here, FOG, MST, SoG, Lucky, tommy and our beloved mod KS. Not just us, but the whole forum misses out when people don't want to be involved, whether their involvement involves moderating, sharing info, or just the occasional post whore post, it's all a valued contribution.

So a BIG thanks to those that make ex-500 available, and thanks to everyone that is here, and makes it what it is. It just is what it is, so sit back and enjoy.

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I agree with everything gospeed said.Especially the big thanks to those who make this site possible.Frankly,I was'nt aware that there was a problem.Um....I'm still not aware of any problem.

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some people need some laxatives.

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could always lock the thread for a while and then open it back up to crack the whip no?
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OK. Some background on this site, my intentions and capabilities, and insight on the situation. I created this site and maintain it for the benefit of the EX-500 community. I do this because I found forums to be the most valuable resource around when seeking questions as a new rider, particularly when one has questions or concerns about a particular bike. I read many, many forums my first year of riding, and continue to read three, including this one, on an everyday basis. No Wiki's

This site is driven by user-supplied content, and from its inception, has been a forum. While I don't think a Wiki, or lets be more accurate, any static, published site format is a bad idea, it does contain a couple of assumptions:

- One or more people have the time, effort and knowledge to distill a great amount of information, summarize and present it in a short article-style format.

- Someone can manage the above.

- That we're all comfortable with objectifying the subjective.

Now personally, I'm 33 years old. Recently married. Work a high-stress job with a lot going on, long hours, and an even longer commute. When I get home at night, I'm tasked right away with cooking dinner for the night, spend time afterwards cleaning up, and am lucky to be able to relax in front of the TV for a little bit before bed. Oh, I'm also going to be having a baby soon This prevents me from spending large amounts of time in front of the computer playing with the site, but I suppose that on the other hand, I also won't stop maintaining the site because I can't afford the hosting, just got a new girlfriend, or decided I wanted to run off an tour Europe before fall semester starts.

I do, however, pay for a dedicated server, maintain a beautifully minimal software stack designed to provide maximum performance and security, remotely backup all data nightly, keeps software packages up to date, and generally try to ensure that the site runs well and is available all the time. I also try my best to listen to everyone, and help ensure everyone gets along.

However, I most definitely don't have the time to summarize dozens or hundreds of issues and put them in a Wiki, and won't anytime soon. So, as I'm not inherently opposed to a Wiki (other than it's often misused and used as a platform for general publishing of static content rather than providing a platform for community-driven documentation), if anyone offered to step up and say, perhaps, "Hey, I'd love to write up 100 articles on common questions and concerns and offer them up to start a Wiki", it might be worth discussion.

One day, somewhere in the future, a whole generation is going to be getting all of their news through whatever RSS-like feed equivalents and search engines they have, and newspapers will have disappeared. Then, someone's going to come along and ask, "Why can't somebody just take all of the important news and print it up for me once a day so I can just read the headlines in a couple of seconds?"

When I was little, I would've been heading down to my town's under-funded library to pick up books on motorcycles, and have found a couple of must volumes about Harley's and Indians, if they didn't think the topic too racy. Maybe a couple of Haynes manuals on 60's Chevy's.

Viva la interweb!

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could always lock the thread for a while and then open it back up to crack the whip no?
nah i'm just going to merge it with the whore thread.


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ps i can write wiki

if you DO get one, dont let it turn into wikipedia please. i see some of the most asinine retarded shit there. people arguing for pages about how something is spelled, or whether to add a picture. not cool.
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pms ?
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im a bit confused.. what happen to the previous forum? and whats up with the sinking ship thing??

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Just in case no one has said it of late, thanks.


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