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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE ?????

OK. I finally got my tank back from the painter and last night I installed the new filter.

It had to be tapped in with a socket extension. In my pics I DID NOT have it seated all the way in.
It does go all the way in with a tap. The carbs DO NOT have to be removed to make this conversion.

I like this way better than the inline filter I had. There is way more flexibility with the stock length hose.

Also, I started out with very little fuel last night and usually it normally wouldn't be enough for the bike to run because of the added fuel line height with the old added inline fuel filter, but I made it to the gas station and put 3.5 gallons of fuel in.

This is a great way of filtering the fuel. I am way grateful to ducatiman for this modification.

It works like a champ!!



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just a word of warning to others doing this.....do not crack the T fitting when inserting the screen...

easy does it, especially the tapping process.

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Tapping it in? You mean literally just tapping it softly to get it to fit snugly?
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^ yes, softly being the operative word here. Brooklyns ZZX required pliers to remove and persuasion to seat during reinstallation (after we examined it, and lightly, carefully blowing out with compressed air)

the slight interference fit insures fuel or dirt is not bypassing the filter, 100% filtration

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Ahh ok. For a second I thought the filter "screwed" in and he actually tapped his carb nipple.
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gotta tell ya, for $4 and no cutting, routing, screwing around with hoses, this thing IS a home run.

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Its tapered a bit under the top ring. I didn't realize this last week when I first took the pics. My initial thought was that it wouldn't work. But when I actually installed it on my 92 I tried a socket extension and used the flat end and gave it a light ride with a pair of pliers tapping on it with finesse until she hit home. Not like I had to hit it with a hammer or anything. You can't be afraid of it yet you can't bash the hell out of it either.

I am convinced that it fits just as it does on the zzr which is what it was made for. Its a flawless application.



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I wouldn't expect everyone to jump and run out and do it if they are already happy with their setup but for people that have no filter at all or the people that are having trouble with the line routing on theirs, this would be the top choice.



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any feedback from others on this? ISS and Toasty, how'd you make out?

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I'm putting out a call here to anyone whose local dealer can get this. I need one and my local dealer is out as is the online places. If anyone can get this for me and ship it, I will reimburse you through paypal! Please help!
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any feedback from others on this? ISS and Toasty, how'd you make out?
awesome. I owe you a beer if we ever meet

And yes, it does have to be 'tapped' in since it fits snug. I've put about 1000km on it since and not a single problem. Can go WOT, low fuel level... i havn't taken it into reserve since i'm paranoid about running out of gas but overall this is IMHO the best, easiest and cheapest way of adding a fuel filter.

Why the f kawasaki didn't do this from the go-go we will never know, but ya, ducatiman, you are the MAN!

edit: If people are having a hard time getting a hold of one I'll try my dealer and see how many I can order. These things will easily fit in regular mail envelopes/postage. Florida, lemme know if you're having problems and I'll see what I can find on my end.
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Ill check in the morning



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just ordered one from RA. Is there an alternative to rubber fuel hose though? Thx.
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Ordered mine! Great info guys!
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I love this new fuel filter, the only reservation I have about it is it's small size and how easily/long till it might get clogged, verses the in-line ons we are using now.

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One of the very clear recommendations on the Triumph Trophy group is to go in and REMOVE these very same filters from the fuel lines. Apparently they are easily clogged and (at least on the Trophy) a real PITA to access and clean. If you have a lot of rust/scae/debris in your tank I would probably opt for a larger filter with more surface area. My $.02.

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One of the very clear recommendations on the Triumph Trophy group is to go in and REMOVE these very same filters from the fuel lines. Apparently they are easily clogged and (at least on the Trophy) a real PITA to access and clean. If you have a lot of rust/scae/debris in your tank I would probably opt for a larger filter with more surface area. My $.02.
that's what I was thinking small surface area for sure. On a newer bike, or one with a nice clean tank should not be an issue, but on an older bike with a questionable tank it might be the case. on a personal note did you get my PM onetworide?

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Seen these in the 2009 250s, dont know why they dont come standard in the 500's.
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One of the very clear recommendations on the Triumph Trophy group is to go in and REMOVE these very same filters from the fuel lines. Apparently they are easily clogged and (at least on the Trophy) a real PITA to access and clean. If you have a lot of rust/scae/debris in your tank I would probably opt for a larger filter with more surface area. My $.02.
Thats contradictory...and i think ill advised....IF REMOVED the very same crap thats being trapped by the filter is allowed to travel downstream further INTO the fuel system. To the Trophy group, I'd suggest SERVICING the filter often as needed, unless access prohibits (that gets into design flaw).

Agreed, as was pointed out earlier in this thread, a rustbucket tank would not be served well by this filter. A clean, otherwise normal EX fuel system would be the perfect application. I'd also advocate cleaning and inspection until a trend is established as I think access is fairly simple on the EX.

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Thats contradictory...and i think ill advised....IF REMOVED the very same crap thats being trapped by the filter is allowed to travel downstream further INTO the fuel system. To the Trophy group, I'd suggest SERVICING the filter often as needed, unless access prohibits (that gets into design flaw).


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I guess I should clarify- the recommendation was to remove the tiny inline filters and replace them with a larger, easier to service inline filter somewhere between tank and carbs. It should be pointed out that to access the filters on the Trophy it takes over an hour. Then to reassemble verything...well about two hours if you're lucky. That's the logic behind the recommendation for replacing them with something more easily and perhaps less frequently serviced.
Hope that clears it up from the Triumph end...the EX is much easier to get at, so maybe it's a better option there.

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thats makin sense, kurt. PS, you may have one on your Cagiva, same place inlet rail to carbs. You have Mikuni downdrafts on that?

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thats makin sense, kurt. PS, you may have one on your Cagiva, same place inlet rail to carbs. You have Mikuni downdrafts on that?
It's fuel injected- I believe it's made by Weber-Marelli. I'll have to check for the filters, I believe you may be correct. I do hope they are easier to reach than on the Trophy. What a pain on that bike.
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Hi all, even with a dirty fuel system would it be a real problem with blocking? With the screens in the fuel tap there would only be a small amount getting to that filter so would only be a matter of checking and cleaning occasionaly.
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In the troubleshooting section here we do not see very many problems of this nature unless either they have no filter at all or if they sharred a piece of rubber after the filter and it sticks a float or gets caught in a pilot jet. This concept completely solves that problem. I have no problem getting to mine nor did I have any problems installing it. It does hit the nail on the head. I'm very glad I did it because I was having issues with running out of gas long before I hit reserve. After long hours of trying to find a filter at the auto stores and ending up with a minor fuel delivery issue at low tank levels after following the wiki instructions, I am convinced this is the way to go. I have been using mine for over a month and have no running issues whatsoever. I would gladly jump on my ex and take it to california in a heartbeat. The part is just as good quality as any other part on the ex. It is just good enough just like the rest of the bike. I'm sorry we didn't know about this sooner.



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