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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

No one has e er reported any problems whatsoever using the alternative method.

Isn't that a good enough reason right there to use it? Any more or different filters are just not necessary. Why bother?



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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

Yes, I realize it's a very viable option and has seen overwhelming success.

However, I rightfully assume that the majority of users have a tank in better condition than mine. I'm just playing devil's advocate, not trying to discount the alternative filtering method.

That being said:
Do you have any input regarding the pure filtering performance of the two types?
Or any warnings to using both filters back-to-back? Though it is likely unnecessary.

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Two filters in a row is simply too restrictive. The canister filter is restrictive within itself and there's a good chance the fuel line will end up with undesirable routing that will further restrict.

If your tank inside is ugly then there are steps you can take to correct that. But I really don't think there is any need for two filters, no. My advice would be to stick with what already has been proven.



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Two filters in a row is simply too restrictive. The canister filter is restrictive within itself and there's a good chance the fuel line will end up with undesirable routing that will further restrict.

If your tank inside is ugly then there are steps you can take to correct that. But I really don't think there is any need for two filters, no. My advice would be to stick with what already has been proven.
Agreed. I originally had a K&N filter and had brutal fuel starvation problems. The carb rail filter is the end all and be all option for our EX's.

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I had a severely rusted tank and it is now newly coated with POR-15 (96 hour curing time is finished in 6 hours). I still have reservations regarding the coating having reached 100% surface area inside the tank.
Did you follow the directions for each step of the POR process? You chemically cleaned and removed the rust with Marine Clean in Step 1. You chemically etched the tank in Step 2 with Metal Ready. You took great pain to completely dry the tank (did you use a blow dryer?) before applying product. You "rolled" the tank with product to cover the inside adequately then drained excess product from tank in Step 3....you allowed 96 hour cure time....in other words IF you precisely followed the directions...you have no worries.

And the 1 rail filter will do.

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Yes to all. Installed the single rail filter and fired her up. Successfully set off on the first ride, but experienced a GREAT lack of power below 7000 rpm, but that's for a different post.

Thanks for your guys' insight.

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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

Just had my (sort of) local dealership order KAWASAKI P/N 49019-1085. The guy said he "had never sold one of these fuel filters," but when I asked him if I could get one, he said yeah sure, and ordered it. I'll be picking up on Friday or Tuesday, hopefully, and pop that sucker in. Been meaning to do this for ages.

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Just had my (sort of) local dealership order KAWASAKI P/N 49019-1085. The guy said he "had never sold one of these fuel filters," but when I asked him if I could get one, he said yeah sure, and ordered it. I'll be picking up on Friday or Tuesday, hopefully, and pop that sucker in. Been meaning to do this for ages.
What is the out the door price at the stealership?
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Guy said 6 bucks, as expected. I didn't even have to pay for the order, he just did it over the phone. So, 6.50 with tax, plus whatever it costs to ride the 50k there and back.

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It used to be around $3.00, see money isnt worth what it used to be worth. Just keep printing more thats the answer, yeah sure.



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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

use of this filter is not limited to EX, working on '84 ZN750 4 cylinder Kaw carbs and it fits perfectly in the rail, we're going with it. And since...installed on Yamaha FZR600 with Mikuni downdrafts....perfect fit.

though on any other application, I'd suggest carefully measuring rail before pounding (tapping) it in


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the filter spines can be carefully "relieved" a bit with crocus cloth to ease up on the interference fit .........

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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

Ordered 2, 2.94 each at RonAyers. Going to have my tank off soon anyway so might as well while I'm in there.

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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

Since bike has 2 carbs, so would it require two filters? May I please get a part number to search on RonAyers?

I don't have any fuel filter at the moment, what do you guys suggest, this one or something else?

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Since bike has 2 carbs, so would it require two filters? May I please get a part number to search on RonAyers?

I don't have any fuel filter at the moment, what do you guys suggest, this one or something else?
You only need one it has only 1 fuel inlet for both the 2 carbs
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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

Thanks so much.

Does this filter require any maintenance and can be installed while carbs are still attached on the bike?

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Thanks so much.

Does this filter require any maintenance and can be installed while carbs are still attached on the bike?
Shouldn't need much maintenance unless you have a rusty tank. It can be installed with the carbs still on. You just have to pull the fuel line and then insert the filter.

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Thank you, not sure if I have a rusty tank or no, because bike is from 07.

Good to hear that it can be installed while carbs are intact.

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Thank you, not sure if I have a rusty tank or no, because bike is from 07.

Good to hear that it can be installed while carbs are intact.
Yuppers, it is tight thought be patient and very cognitive of the condition of your fuel hose.
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Re: easy fuel filter ALTERNATIVE....YES!

the filter needs to be *lightly* tapped into the fuel rail

Easy does it, do NOT crack the rail!

As i posted earlier, lightly sand the leading corners for easier insertion. It won't deform inside that way, either.


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the filter needs to be *lightly* tapped into the fuel rail

Easy does it, do NOT crack the rail!

As i posted earlier, lightly sand the leading corners for easier insertion. It won't deform inside that way, either.

Thanks so much DM, I appreciate it.

After removing gas tank, does it have enough space for tapping? What should I tap it with, small rubber mallet? For sanding, I should sand the side which will go into fuel rail first, correct?

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relieve, round out and smooth the squared off corner edges at the end which will be inserted. Just a few swipes on a sheet of sandpaper is all thats needed on each side. You are creating a slight taper at the end.

then push it into the fuel rail with fingers or long needle nose....then carefully tap it in till seated. The fuel rail is hard plastic and can crack if stressed, easy does it.

If, for any reason, you pull your carbs, its the perfect time to pull it out for inspection and re install.

BTW...don't use a hammer, way too much oomph.

You could use a long wooden dowel, a socket extension, something along those lines, carefully rapping with pliers. Start easy, become aggressive as needed to do the job without wrecking something.

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Thanks again for your advice DM, I am going to order filter and post back if I run into any issues.

BTW, if I get gravity-flow engine filter, cut my fuel pipe from petcoke and hang a filter there. Would that be a problem or can still do its job?

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If you do the fuel rail filter do not do anything else.
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When installing larger inline filters, space constraints create routing and flow problems.

No other filter is necesssary. The rail filter utilizes stock length hose and routing.

Members have reported ZERO problems over a few years now, its tried and true.

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Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate it.

Forgive my ignorance too, just trying to learn and ask some stupid questions

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