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Anyone ever turned a 500R into a dual sport???

Seriously, Not just slapping off road tires on it. I was considering getting a dual sport some time back, but found most are single cylinder (thumpers) eacept the high end bies $$$, So i was thinking about KLR front forks and extending the swingarm and the rear suspensio. Abviously removing the fairing and such, But its just a thought. Never know with me when my ideas turn into reality. Just pondering right now. I think the 500% powerplant would be sufficent and the gear (sprokets ) coulnd be adjusted to be very suitable for this . Any thoughts

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this is what started me thinking some time back,Was thinking about a SV dual sport much like the ducati (we all know I am not a ducati man). But I have a 500R . think it could be done realtively easy.

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I believe its totally doable, you just need to devote the time and energy/money to the project.

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I think it would be practical. But work out the money, it might be cheaper to just buy a used dual sport. Maybe find a dual sport with a trashed motor and just swap the engine in...

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their are a few people that did it. klr front and raised the back with knobbies. i must have seen them on this site. im thinking about doing it to one of mine.
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Most dual sports are thumpers. i just dont like single cylinder power. Reminds me of a moped for some reason. I want a twin at least.

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Yes! a twin! NO LESS than a 2 cylinder motor for any dual purpose, EVER. thumpers kinda annoy me in a way. makes me think of listening to my chainsaw or weed whip when you wind em out, a twin just sounds more real and is more actual fun.

The challenging factor would be the weak design of the frame, which you would have to brace a little/lot to really make it a great alll purpose bike. I'd still love an XR650L supermoto though.

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I didn't modify mine that much, all I did was to streetfighter it but I did use the 500 as a dual sport. It worked well aside from the fact I didn't even had knobbies


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There's a thread in ADV of this being done. There was or are some where, not here, KLE 500s. I'm pretty sure that's what they were. As I mentioned though not in the USA, the land of race replicas and luxobarges. :P


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If you really wanted a dual, why not sell the Ninja to buy one? Many of the duals are cheaper than the EX. Hell, I can buy a brand new DR-Z400sm for the same amount I bought the Ninja for. Then you have a bike that's truly designed for both on/off road.
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I think I need a second bike or a 'Strom. I don't really want offroad capability. I would like to be able to hit the dirt, gravel and truck roads here. Oh yes and carry camping gear. And make 1300 mile trips on the slab


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If you really wanted a dual, why not sell the Ninja to buy one? Many of the duals are cheaper than the EX. Hell, I can buy a brand new DR-Z400sm for the same amount I bought the Ninja for. Then you have a bike that's truly designed for both on/off road.
DR is a thumper, they feel completely gutless to me. I want a 2 cylinder motor. Dont want a really expensive bike like a BWM so I am condsidering this. I rode a DR400 thu one of my last MSF classes. I really didint liek it at all.

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If you really wanted a dual, why not sell the Ninja to buy one? Many of the duals are cheaper than the EX. Hell, I can buy a brand new DR-Z400sm for the same amount I bought the Ninja for. Then you have a bike that's truly designed for both on/off road.
DR is a thumper, they feel completely gutless to me. I want a 2 cylinder motor. Dont want a really expensive bike like a BWM so I am condsidering this. I rode a DR400 thu one of my last MSF classes. I really didint liek it at all.
The DR-Z400sm would kick an EX's butt. It would be an upgrade. And I really doubt they have the DR-Zsm at the MSF. They usually have a flotilla of DR200se.
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I really doubt they have the DR-Zsm at the MSF. They usually have a flotilla of DR200se.
I teach the basic and the EXPERIENCED class, The students bring thier own bikes for the experienced class. The student brought his DRZ400 and I rode it thru several demos. I just think they feel cheap. I just dont like the feel of any thumper. Hence this thread.

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I really doubt they have the DR-Zsm at the MSF. They usually have a flotilla of DR200se.
I teach the basic and the EXPERIENCED class, The students bring thier own bikes for the experienced class. The student brought his DRZ400 and I rode it thru several demos. I just think they feel cheap. I just dont like the feel of any thumper. Hence this thread.
It's probably more a matter of positioning of the body, and how loose the bars feel in comparison to a sportbike. You may be translating that loose feel as cheapness? Or possibly the lightness of the bike as cheapness?
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none..Well maybe on a trail but that about it.

not bashing the DR400. but i dont like them, Nor do I like the KLR or the Xl. Just dont like thumpers, they remind me of mopeds. I like inline 4 on my big bikes and twins for dual sport. Thats just how it is. Try a twin dual sport adn youll be ruuined to a thumper.

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someone posted a pic of an EX turned dirt bike on this forum, but I cant find it.

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Just starting at the basics: While the DRZ400sm has 13.4 less HP than the EX, it is 140 lbs lighter! You can't tell me logistically speaking that the DRZsm does not have an advantage. And while it's not exactly the ultimate hooligan bike (I believe the Aprilia SXV has that title), it's still a very quick, torquey little monkey.
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i say find a craped out dirtbike frame...and wedge a gsxr 1000 fi motor in there....you would have your power....and 4 cylinders....

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Just starting at the basics: While the DRZ400sm has 13.4 less HP than the EX, it is 140 lbs lighter! You can't tell me logistically speaking that the DRZsm does not have an advantage. And while it's not exactly the ultimate hooligan bike (I believe the Aprilia SXV has that title), it's still a very quick, torquey little monkey.
For starters, last I checked, the curb weight of an EX is 185kg, the DRs being 134kg. 185 minus 134 = 51kgs. Also, top speed of an EX is 130mph, the DRs being 95mph. "torguey little monkey" and "kick an EXs butt" are not valid justifications, their overblown opinions at best. If your EX cant do more then 95mph and is getting it butt kicked by a dirt bike, double check your title to be sure someone didnt slip you a 250 with 500 decals.
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Just starting at the basics: While the DRZ400sm has 13.4 less HP than the EX, it is 140 lbs lighter! You can't tell me logistically speaking that the DRZsm does not have an advantage. And while it's not exactly the ultimate hooligan bike (I believe the Aprilia SXV has that title), it's still a very quick, torquey little monkey.
For starters, last I checked, the curb weight of an EX is 185kg, the DRs being 134kg. 185 minus 134 = 51kgs. Also, top speed of an EX is 130mph, the DRs being 95mph. "torguey little monkey" and "kick an EXs butt" are not valid justifications, their overblown opinions at best. If your EX cant do more then 95mph and is getting it butt kicked by a dirt bike, double check your title to be sure someone didnt slip you a 250 with 500 decals.
I have ridden them both, The EX would stomp the DR on the street (both in stock forum)

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Just starting at the basics: While the DRZ400sm has 13.4 less HP than the EX, it is 140 lbs lighter! You can't tell me logistically speaking that the DRZsm does not have an advantage. And while it's not exactly the ultimate hooligan bike (I believe the Aprilia SXV has that title), it's still a very quick, torquey little monkey.
For starters, last I checked, the curb weight of an EX is 185kg, the DRs being 134kg. 185 minus 134 = 51kgs. Also, top speed of an EX is 130mph, the DRs being 95mph. "torguey little monkey" and "kick an EXs butt" are not valid justifications, their overblown opinions at best. If your EX cant do more then 95mph and is getting it butt kicked by a dirt bike, double check your title to be sure someone didnt slip you a 250 with 500 decals.
For starters, 51 kgs is 112 lbs. That's an entire adult human.
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an ENTIRE HUMAN Oh My God!! An ENTIRE HUMAN!! Not a piece, but an ENTIRE HUMAN!! HOLY SH*T!!! Discuss the 95mph vs 130 mph top speed part and you may still have a shred of a point.
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