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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 7-18-2010, 7:01 PM Thread Starter
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How to best price my Ninja Dirt?

I have secured an ZX10 for a similar build and will soon be selling my ND having taken it about as far as I can.

It is a 2008 with 10K on it in very good condition. Geared down for dual sport use but all original sprockets (and a few extras) go with it. It handles just like an EX on the road yet is very capable on single track dirt also.

I have no idea of how to price it for sale and thought you guys may be able to give some good input.

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The only price that matters is the one that people will pay in your location. Scouting craigslist for similar vehicles is the best idea, you can then get a good idea of the pricepoint at which things move.

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The only price that matters is the one that people will pay in your location. Scouting craigslist for similar vehicles is the best idea, you can then get a good idea of the pricepoint at which things move.
You are correct but this bike is rather custom. If it was all stock I would ask $3K to start I think. But does what I've done to it hurt or help the resale?
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The only price that matters is the one that people will pay in your location. Scouting craigslist for similar vehicles is the best idea, you can then get a good idea of the pricepoint at which things move.
You are correct but this bike is rather custom. If it was all stock I would ask $3K to start I think. But does what I've done to it hurt or help the resale?
I'll let someone who knows more about this sort of customization talk towards it, but I know on a street bike it rarely adds much value... or at least not as much as the owner who customized it thinks it should.

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Re: How to best price my Ninja Dirt?

Look for similar year/ mileage EX's, and if you think what theyre asking for a stock one is a fair price to pay for yours, ask the same. As always when selling used, set a price you feel is fair to yourself _and_ the buyer, and be willing to flex a bit

To the right person it should be worth as much as a stock one, but I'd doubt you will get as many hits. Though who knows, maybe more people will want it cuz its so cool !

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The only price that matters is the one that people will pay in your location. Scouting craigslist for similar vehicles is the best idea, you can then get a good idea of the pricepoint at which things move.
You are correct but this bike is rather custom. If it was all stock I would ask $3K to start I think. But does what I've done to it hurt or help the resale?
I would pay you less. Well really I just wouldn't buy it. Its a street bike that you rode and abused off-road. That sounds harsh, but I don't mean to be offensive, what you did was really cool, but probably not great for resale value. Maybe it would be better to try and return it to stock before selling?


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Re.. Otis... Thats the kind of input I was looking for along with all others, doesn't sound harsh at all to me. I just don't have a clue what its worth or where to start the pricing at. I would never sell it if I didn't have the ZX coming anyway. As for abusing it off road I would argue though that I have abused it far more on road than off. LOL He's never been above 12K off road and has several times on the slab.

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Your not going to get a good price for it trying to sell it to someone who wants a sport bike. It would cost too much to try and make a strictly street bike out of it, if it could even be done at this point. Your best price will come from someone who wants an Enduro (Street/Dirt). And what a great Enduro it is!

You might want to list it a little high at first. After all, your looking for that buyer who wants a special kind of thing: a six-speed 498 cc parallel twin water cooled Enduro! It will only cost you the price of an ad. List it at $4-5K and see what happens. Let the ad run for 3-4 months. Your not trying to get a bunch of people to call, just one. There is a person out there who would love to have that bike and couldn't build one themselves.

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Your not going to get a good price for it trying to sell it to someone who wants a sport bike. It would cost too much to try and make a strictly street bike out of it, if it could even be done at this point. Your best price will come from someone who wants an Enduro (Street/Dirt). And what a great Enduro it is!

You might want to list it a little high at first. After all, your looking for that buyer who wants a special kind of thing: a six-speed 498 cc parallel twin water cooled Enduro! It will only cost you the price of an ad. List it at $4-5K and see what happens. Let the ad run for 3-4 months. Your not trying to get a bunch of people to call, just one. There is a person out there who would love to have that bike and couldn't build one themselves.

Just my 2 cents.
My thoughts exactly. It's a very special/custom bike. There are maybe two or three people in a single city who would want this. I agree with the pricing too.

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Listing it high at first is a classic problem in the real estate market. You need to determine a fair price and list it at that right out of the gate. Otherwise, people see it listed later and think there is something wrong with it and the stigma affects your price negatively. Usually even more than if you had listed a little lower to begin with. I have seen that countless times over the years.

As far as where to price it, it seems that the dual sport market is your target. You should be researching pricing in that area. Does your bike offer an advantage over other DS bikes? If so, then staying higher in the range might be fine. Is the fact that it is "experimental" going to cause issues or are the disadvantages to your bike? Then you need to be low in the range to attract more buyers. The cool factor is probably not going to get you $3k all by it's self.

Good luck. I love the bike and someone else who is prepared to buy will too.


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This should be asked over at ADV rider.com if you haven't already...they are much more knowledgeable of such things

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post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 7-20-2010, 9:30 AM
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The ninja dirt is an awesome bike but like others said I would not own a bike that modified unless I did the work myself. Not saying you are not fully qualified to do the work you just don't know when buying somthing. That being said Im shure there is sombody out there looking for there very own ninja dirt (even if they don't know it yet) good luck with your sale keep us posted.
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Re: How to best price my Ninja Dirt?

I think the dirt modifications will hurt your ability to sell. You made it yours, which is great, but it's going to be hard to find someone else who wants the same thing you did.

That said, I would put it up for $2800 or so and see if you get any emails. Down-play the mods in the ad. "EX500 with dirt tires - used for gravel/dirt road riding, so the street tires didn't make much sense."

I know you probably did a lot more than that, but personally, the more I see someone changing things and working on a bike, the less I want to deal with it as a buyer. I see that a lot with track bikes. "2003 GSXR 600 with GSXR1000 forks and shock, R1 master cylinder..." and so on. Those may be great, fantastic, superb modifications, but I'll never remember them all if something breaks and i need to replace it...

Documentation of your modifications would make me feel better about buying from you, but if putting the bike back to stock(ish) is an option, I'd consider that your best way to get the most cash.

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So you're going to build a zx10 for offroading? That takes some serious balls, even just to ride the thing in the dirt. I'd be afraid of hitting a bump, twisting the throttle, and looping the sucker

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Looping can be fun if done in the dirt. LOL
Thanks for all the good intel. I have a guy coming into town saying he will buy it for $4k. If he is a no show I may just keep it until the ZX10 is done.
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Good luck with the sale 4k seems like a pretty good deal for you.
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....and the end result?

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Interested to hear how it goes. $4K is a golden deal IMO.



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He never showed up. I have not advertised it and will now keep riding her until my new project is completed. Put 120 dirt miles on her today and really enjoyed it.

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He never showed up. I have not advertised it and will now keep riding her until my new project is completed. Put 120 dirt miles on her today and really enjoyed it.

Hey post up your project zx10 in the other bikes forum please! They are so cool.


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I'd be sad to see the ninja dirt sold. it even gets mentioned in other moto forums incase you didn't know. it's famous amongst us 500 owners. it also inspires me to build a ninjaSnow just to hush the naysayers.

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Yeah, kinda sad to see this one go, and would loved to ride it someday.

Any chance of reverting it back to stock?
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I'd be sad to see the ninja dirt sold. it even gets mentioned in other moto forums incase you didn't know. it's famous amongst us 500 owners. it also inspires me to build a ninjaSnow just to hush the naysayers.
Didn't know of any other forums where it's mentioned. Where at?

Took it to a Team AZ training last night where they were working on low speed agility and di better than 90% of the others even though we were all riding in heavy rain. It really is a lot of fun and I'm not sure anymore on trying to sell it. I don't really need the money right now. The ZX is no longer going to have a custom frame from the ground up. I have acquired a KTM Adventure frame and suspension I will adapt for it. Right now I'm trying to get my mind around the pipes that will need to be made and how thats going to work before mod'ing the frame. Probably will start a new posting over on ADV'r for the build though as it starts to come together.
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Yeah, kinda sad to see this one go, and would loved to ride it someday.

Any chance of reverting it back to stock?
It would take me about a day to take it back to stock, although it would be missing the side and lower plastics as I tossed them when nobody wanted them. All other items needed are here in two milk crates and can bolt right on after some torch work here and there. Stock form though is boring compared to riding it as is. Still handles like a ninja just taller (a lot taller).

If you get near look me up and we'll go for a ride into the hills. I'll ride one of my other bikes and you can drag a knee on the ND.
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If you get near look me up and we'll go for a ride into the hills.
Where do you live?

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I'll ride one of my other bikes and you can drag the side of your face on the ND.
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