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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 6-7-2019, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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This is a message that I believe in as it hits home for me. I know a few people who are no longer here today because of the choices made. I wish I would have taken a stance and spoke heart to heart with them. If you know someone who is drinking and riding, please do not turn a blind eye. We can not control their actions, but we can at least let them know how much we care about them.

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 6-7-2019, 12:23 PM
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So true. It's been demonstrated that just two drinks has a noticeable negative effect on your ability to drive a car. Now, translate that to motorcycle riding, which requires so much more of you.
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I leave the ride when my few HD riding buds decide to go to the biker bar...bye bye...I'm gone. No way. That includes smoking weed ...I can clearly see their riding is affected when they do so.

Just for the record, I do not partake in any illegal substance abuse, on or off bike. Under any conditions prefer to ride with those absolutely straight and sober.

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Back in 2003 while at the 1st Annual Volusia rally I had 2 beers at the motel while the group was conversing/wrench party/looking at bikes. After an hour or so I jumped on my scoot to ride 10 miles to my campsite.

NEVER AGAIN will I drink and ride!!! Those two beers (and I was way younger and could handle it) effected my equilibrium enough to scare the heck out of me!!! I made it to the campsite OK but that was my one and only lesson regarding drinking and biking.

Now, I'm an old guy and hardly ever indulge anyway. I drank enough in my younger days where I still have a few years to go not drinking anything to catch up!

And smoking...I wouldn't do it while sitting at home!
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Genuinely never tried mixing bikes and alcohol. Done plenty of both at separate times though.
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I never drank or smoked anything was always involved it activities that required my full faculties at the best. I tried to be a social drinker at parties but found it lacking. I feel my excellent heart and vigorous lifestyle are the [email protected] I can keep up with my kids,

Booze and tobacco not to mention the wacky kind will shorten your life.

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Bikes and Booze don't mix. As a rider, I've never gone to a party or out to a bar for the sole purpose of drinking. I've had a beer with lunch, yes. I've had a beer with dinner, yes. A beer. That's it. Normally, at the beginning of dinner so I have plenty of time and food to be unimpaired when I saddle back up.



I've known plenty of guys who've done far more than I'd even contemplate if I were driving and still swing a leg over. While the majority of them survived (some did not) most no longer ride because of the injuries they sustained or because they chose to walk away.



I've never understood the culture of the "bar hopper" rider. Guy's who ride from bar to bar and drink at every bar along the way. Kind of the same with the "poker run" rider. All the stops are at bars. Most consume at each stop. Halfway through the run they're all wobbling along barely managing the speed limit. What's the point in that?



Being impaired aboard a motorcycle isn't my idea of a good time. If I'm going to drink more than a couple, which I can't really do much of anymore, I'll Uber or take a cab...or have a DD. No point in pushing the law of averages or rolling the dice on my life. It's difficult enough out there to stay alive on 2 wheels. Decreasing the odds of living through the next ride is just, well....dumb. .....sean


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Plus 1 on all of the above but I'd like to make the point that alcohol isn't the only way to wind up being "impaired".

I'll admit that if I'm out on a longer ride and stop somewhere for a bite, I'm sorely tempted to order a craft beer to go along with that tasty looking sandwich. But I don't; my beverage of choice in that situation is ice water because dehydration can impair your mental performance just as surely as alcohol.

I also avoid ordering a heavy meal because a full belly tends to make me a bit dozy. Also riding for so long that a feeling of wandering attention or "highway hypnosis" sets in means its time to pull over, take a break, and a couple swigs out of the water bottle. Riding is so potentially dangerous that nothing less than full concentration is required and it is up to each of us to continually "self monitor" to make sure we keep performing at our best.

When the bikes are safely back in the garage is the proper time to grab a cold one, kick back, and celebrate another great day of riding.
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Plus 1 on all of the above but I'd like to make the point that alcohol isn't the only way to wind up being "impaired".

I'll admit that if I'm out on a longer ride and stop somewhere for a bite, I'm sorely tempted to order a craft beer to go along with that tasty looking sandwich. But I don't; my beverage of choice in that situation is ice water because dehydration can impair your mental performance just as surely as alcohol.

I also avoid ordering a heavy meal because a full belly tends to make me a bit dozy. Also riding for so long that a feeling of wandering attention or "highway hypnosis" sets in means its time to pull over, take a break, and a couple swigs out of the water bottle. Riding is so potentially dangerous that nothing less than full concentration is required and it is up to each of us to continually "self monitor" to make sure we keep performing at our best.

When the bikes are safely back in the garage is the proper time to grab a cold one, kick back, and celebrate another great day of riding.
Good points about dehydration and fatigue.
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I second all of this!

I've always been very avid about this, and with cars too, and it's always frustrating when I come across people who are "fine" or "good at it." I don't understand how some people don't comprehend just how many innocent people are maimed and killed, in addition to property damaged, all because someone else insisted that they were "fine" to drive after a dozen drinks.

But it's nice to see an entire internet forum agree on this important topic. Thank you.
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Of course in addition we now have texters.....sober, yet just as dangerous IMHO. Frequent highway riding situations looking at the driver ahead through rear window.......his head turned down and to the right....you know damned well what they are doing.

Losing focus, many then slowly run out of the lane, then realizing, reacting, doing what I call the "SUV twitch", quickly, dangerously attempting correction before actually running off the road. I'd submit when you see upside down SUV's out there...some percentage have done precisely this.

Can be damned scary out there.

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I've been traveling a lot lately. I take a shuttle bus to the airport. My vantage point in the bus is quite a bit higher than most vehicles on the road, so I'm able to see down into the car cabin of other vehicles.

It's barely an exaggeration to say that probably 7/10 drivers are screwing around on their phone. It's actually made me seriously question if I want to keep riding. I see it constantly, in town, on the highway, just everywhere. People can't put down their freaking phones. At this point I've gone about 8 years and 30,000 miles without incident. Based on the quality of driving I see daily, I'm wondering just how far my luck will take me.

But yes, back to the topic at hand: I'll add that in my opinion, one should be aware of your mood too when choosing to ride. Especially after a highly stressful event: death of a friend or family member, loss of job, breakup (extreme examples). I've ridden before in a terrible mood and found my patience was lacking and I was making more aggressive and impulsive decisions than I should have been. Stay safe out there folks.
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