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9-5-2008 5:03 PM
snyi
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

Someone want to post this to the Wiki?

Tire Pressure
Max is 32 psi front, 36 in back. Those are the max safe tire pressures. Not really the same as a recommended tire pressure.

FOG says:
The proper tire pressure are really determined by the tire temperature. On a track bike we look for somewhere around 150 deg. This heat is generated by the flexing of the tire. On the street is not possable to maintain any temp whatever. but you want the tire to warm quickly when you get to the twisties and start to push.
The only way to determine the correct pressure for you, your tire, the road you wish to ride, Is to check the pressure rise. As the tire flexes the air in side warms with the rubber and expands increasing the tire pressure, the tire rubber then flexes less and a rough equilibrium is achieved. At this point checking the pressure should yield a number about 10% higher than the cold number.

Radials are designed to flex more on the sidewalls than in the tread. This lighter section (thinner) side wall does not generate the same amount of heat as a Bias tire, therefore at a given energy input level (riding force) they run cooler. So therefore need lower starting pressure.

The rubber needs to warm to about 100 deg ( warm to the touch of a not frozen hand) to work well.

Translation:
Measure your cold tire pressure. Then go do some spirited riding. Then measure your warm tire pressure, once your tires are warm to touch. If your warm tire pressure is ~10% above your cold tire pressure, then you've found a good pressure to use.

Nowhere in this process should your tire pressure rise above the maximum pressures stated in the manual or on the tire.... right?
8-7-2008 6:32 PM
dragknee
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

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Originally Posted by ratchet
congradulations SOG.... I believe that classifies you as a Post Whore All-Star!
(8.039 per day)

still has a way to go to catch post whore #1 lol
8-7-2008 5:59 PM
zeroaffiliation
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

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Originally Posted by ShadesOfGray
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Originally Posted by zeroaffiliation
I personally (enter 10 people = 10 different opinions here) think a template layout would be beneficial and have a more organized look to it, though the redundancy is favorable, sticking to the facts is a must.
Well, I wasn't thinking of rules/etiquette for wiki articles applying to formatting.... As long as the grammar and spelling is good, I'd just as soon leave the rest of it up to common sense, and not have to worry about trying to enforce a bunch of rules that no one is going to read anyway. :P
True enough, I forgot this is the intornetz
8-7-2008 5:59 PM
ratchet
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

congradulations SOG.... I believe that classifies you as a Post Whore All-Star!
8-7-2008 5:55 PM
GrayGamut
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroaffiliation
I personally (enter 10 people = 10 different opinions here) think a template layout would be beneficial and have a more organized look to it, though the redundancy is favorable, sticking to the facts is a must.
Well, I wasn't thinking of rules/etiquette for wiki articles applying to formatting.... As long as the grammar and spelling is good, I'd just as soon leave the rest of it up to common sense, and not have to worry about trying to enforce a bunch of rules that no one is going to read anyway. :P

I guess I'll just keep doin' what I've been doin', and if anyone sees anything that they think is too subjective or not deserving of a wiki article, just lemme know, ok? In the meantime, I think anyone who wants to should feel free to write articles, as long as they kind of follow the trends established by the existing articles...

P.S. holy shit I just checked and I'm up to like 6.2 forum posts per day.....
8-7-2008 5:52 PM
ratchet
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

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Originally Posted by ShadesOfGray

So I'm thinking that for now it would be best to stick to the domain of maintenance/reference information, where it is a little bit easier to state things as being objective fact. I think I'm going to stick to writing that kind of article, at least for now.
Oh... sorry... I guess I just figured that the wiki was solely for this purpose
8-7-2008 5:50 PM
zeroaffiliation
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

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Originally Posted by ShadesOfGray
I dunno. Now we need a whole damn set of rules and etiquette for writing/editing wiki articles..... :P
That could very well need to come into play, especially if it's open to anyone adding information.

I personally (enter 10 people = 10 different opinions here) think a template layout would be beneficial and have a more organized look to it, though the redundancy is favorable, sticking to the facts is a must.
8-7-2008 5:32 PM
Administrator
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

Agreed, but it is a work in progress
8-7-2008 5:30 PM
GrayGamut
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

Hmm, well it's pretty hard to get any consensus as to what is 'objective fact' amongst the members of this forum. 10 different people = 10 different opinions, a lot of the time. :P So I think that limits us to writing about a few very specific topics. Which is fine by me.

While Ninja250.org's wiki is extensive and has a lot of great articles, I also think that they have waaay too many articles. The fewer articles, the better, in my opinion. I mean, they have 28+ articles under the header "Riding Techniques." A lot of those are just a paragraph or two. And anyway I don't think we should have a wiki article for EVERYTHING, which would result in every single forum reply being "check the wiki!."

So I'm thinking that for now it would be best to stick to the domain of maintenance/reference information, where it is a little bit easier to state things as being objective fact. I think I'm going to stick to writing that kind of article, at least for now.

I dunno. Now we need a whole damn set of rules and etiquette for writing/editing wiki articles..... :P
8-7-2008 5:21 PM
ratchet
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

I agree with that... but even if the wiki provides links to the forum that contains the information... it's better than having to scour through 18 different posts on mirrors to find out that there are 5 different viable options.

Great for consolidating information.

They just need to be monitored

and yes, they do need to be objective fact.
8-7-2008 5:15 PM
Administrator
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

And in comes the can of worms

Some duplication isn't problem for me, but I think we should maintain a policy of the Wiki consisting only of objective fact, and not allow it to become a forum for subjective op-ed style pieces.
8-7-2008 5:13 PM
ratchet
Re: Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

as much as you already know my opinion on wikis (I also <3 wikis)

I think that putting duplicates is a great idea.
It gives rookies a great place to browse for everything they'll need instead of searching through all the forums. It also provides a great spot to prevent good posts (such as some of the videos in there that I didn't know existed) from getting buried under a mass of newer ones.

WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI!!!
8-7-2008 5:08 PM
GrayGamut
Duplicate forum posts and wiki articles?

Hey guys,
This is something I've been thinking about a fair amount, but I can't really make up my mind so I thought I'd ask around.....

In my opinion, some posts/threads - like SoarAndEnvision's writeup on changing the chain and sprockets - should clearly be copied over to the Wiki as a means of backing up hotlinked images and also just for the sake of consolidation.

But then there are some other posts that aren't so clear-cut, like FOG's articles on tires, and on spark plugs, etc.

Do you think we should consolidate that sort of reference/how-to information into the Wiki, or should we leave it alone and only post 'new' information/guides in the wiki?

Personally, I'm in favor of consolidating everything, but then I <3 wiki's......

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