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I bought a fiberglass lower fairing from someone on the bay of E and I'm slightly disappointed with the amount of work that really needs to be done to it to make it visually pleasing. But i will say its nice to be doing some body work again though a lot of the routine has escaped the memory bank over the many years its been. But it goes from normal low all the way to the upper fairing for a little more modern of a look and it appears to have appropriate venting to keep air flow going.....i hope at least. My paint guy just let me know he won't even be able to paint until he has a good week or 2 with above freezing temps...in upstate n.y....so hopefully that doesn't cut into tbe season. I know i wont want to have it on the roads with salt still out there anyway but I'm getting anxious to have it put together. Mine is going to be Jet black which i believe will have a bit more gloss than what i see in your picture. And usually black ensures any imperfection pops out "nicely" so hopefully my idea works well. Run some sort of chip guard kinda stuff along the lower section a couple inches upward to protect and cover some of the less easily noticeable imperfections.

Side note/question....the inside area of the fairing is a bit more raw fiberglass material....i imagine when installed some will still be visible...anyone know if there's any sort of prep work I have to do in there before spraying some high temp paint?...which I dont even know if that's the right choice either. Another thought was wrapping any part of exhaust that would be internal to the lower fairing if any with exhaust heat tape to avoid destroying the fairing which potentially could be unpleasant for my exhaust finish i imagine. First bike and first time really customizing any vehicle so not too sure of much. Lol. Thank you anyone for advice and tips.
 

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Side note/question....the inside area of the fairing is a bit more raw fiberglass material....i imagine when installed some will still be visible...anyone know if there's any sort of prep work I have to do in there before spraying some high temp paint?...which I dont even know if that's the right choice either. Another thought was wrapping any part of exhaust that would be internal to the lower fairing if any with exhaust heat tape to avoid destroying the fairing which potentially could be unpleasant for my exhaust finish i imagine. First bike and first time really customizing any vehicle so not too sure of much. Lol. Thank you anyone for advice and tips.
I painted my inside at the same time as my outside. Wrapping the pipes will not keep it from burning the paint. It did not burn the wrap only the paint.(made it discolor)

I am trying a "professional" heat shield on the OEM lower I just bought.... Will see how that goes...
 

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I painted my inside at the same time as my outside. Wrapping the pipes will not keep it from burning the paint. It did not burn the wrap only the paint.(made it discolor)

I am trying a "professional" heat shield on the OEM lower I just bought.... Will see how that goes...
Has your season already started wherever you are? Or does your season not end? Lol. I'm clearly incorrect but i thought the exhaust tape was supposed to "contain" the heat internally or something like that and make it kinda radiate further down the exhaust and keep what's surrounding the taped area somewhat protected. But the only experience i have with it...is seeing it on some bikes....mostly pans/shovels/fatboys/ custom sporties and such. Pretty much nowhere around plastic components. Would a heat shield keep the heat near the engine too much or cause cooling issues or anything? Not questioning your knowledge or anything like that. Trying to learn and ease curiosity is all.
 

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My thoughts were the same, thought it would insulate and protect. It did enough, till I ran it stationary. Paint went from red to chard at the bend through the heat tape wrapped 50%. It was fiberglass. I was very sad as I worked very hard at design of the mounting and redesign and prep and paint, then to have it burn it.
 

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My Season only ends when it snows. In Central Indiana normally is about 3-4 months a year. In fact was going to go out and grab some pics of the burned spot and the pipes after removal of the tape and it snowed about 2 inches last night :(
 

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Has your season already started wherever you are? Or does your season not end? Lol. I'm clearly incorrect but i thought the exhaust tape was supposed to "contain" the heat internally or something like that and make it kinda radiate further down the exhaust and keep what's surrounding the taped area somewhat protected. But the only experience i have with it...is seeing it on some bikes....mostly pans/shovels/fatboys/ custom sporties and such. Pretty much nowhere around plastic components. Would a heat shield keep the heat near the engine too much or cause cooling issues or anything? Not questioning your knowledge or anything like that. Trying to learn and ease curiosity is all.

The first picture is the outside of the lower that discolored and chared it on the inside through the fiberglass wrap. The second pic is of the pipe on the side that did the burning as you can see it left marks on the pipe. I suspect that it being wrapped did indeed move the heat but it also caused it to get hot on the pipe while inside the wrap.

Maybe a wrap+ heat shielding? I don't know, for me I just removed it and going with OEM lower. If you get heat shielding do not get that cheap garbage from China it has zero exhaust heat tolerance. Hope this helps preventing you from going down that same path.

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Oh damn. I didnt realize you had actually done what i was thinking. My bad. Definitely won't be trying that route then. Rereading i see where i mistook a thought for an experience and it's very obvious you had attempted the wrap and warned me not to. Lol. I know the seller had mentioned if people have questions they get a lot of feedback from buyers so maybe i can try hitting them up and see if they have any ideas on what has worked for others. Your bike looks beautifully clean compared to mine. I have some sort of very slow slight drip coming from somewhere. I need to degrease everything and try to locate it. I believe it may only happen when running because there's not a single drop under the bike now. But the lower had a bunch of grim and oil buildup of some sort.
 

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When warm weather finally returns...I'll hopefully find the perfect balance between setting the TPS (throttle position sensor), setting TB (throttle body) sync, 2 air bleeds, idle trim and CO. Using 3 tuning devices at the same time....IAW Diag (programs the ECU using laptop), mercury vacuum guages AND the Gunson CO meter, a certain amount of back and forth tweaking and compromises to be expected, as certain adjustments can radically effect others.
After tackling the more complicated injected 800, I'll do the carbed 900SS and simply set its CO (to around 3%) via the pilot screws .....to assure I'm not destroying the atmosphere, pissing Greta off. Can't have that, nope.
As its warming up some at this time....onward to part 1....bike up on a special stand, rear shock, tank, (separated) battery box, belts/covers and valve covers removed for an unobstructed Desmodromic valve check/adjustment prior to the (quite involved) injection tune, detailed within my quote above. Yep...it could be called a major service.
 

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Not so much a winter project but a spring one, I saw the weather report for next week temps to rise to 16c (60f) so this weekend I'm going to dig the dinosaur out of the corner and see if I can wake it up.
no idea what I will find not touched or looked at it since the rainy season started in October, everything has been covered by sheets as I seem to have gained a long crack in the roof that lets all the rain in been sat there untouched for 6 months.
I did add stabiliser to the tank and disconnected the batteries so live in hope.
that of course is the gen1, the other one is a bit poorly and deffo will be a job for when it gets warmer and roof is repaired.
 

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following up on my previous post....part 1 (valve adjust) now complete. Two valve shims needed resizing/changing. Moving onward to tricky part 2 likely tomorrow.
 

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Gunson CO meter hooked up, stabilizing during my lunch break. The Duc is ready to go.....manometer hookup next when i get out there.
 

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Worked out ok, but a full test ride (when weather allows) will be needed to fully determine. Instant startup, perfect idle speed 1100 RPM, perfect synch after tweaking both cylinders CO to 5%, possibly exhibiting freer revving to high RPM too. The exhaust reading tool I made worked out fully operational, easily worth the effort. Results of a full test ride should reveal if my desires (smooth, controlled low RPM speed and on/off throttle) have actually been achieved. Here's hopin'.
 
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A bit of a different sort of project, but I went in for cataract surgery yesterday. Less than 24 hours after the procedure and I can already give the results a double thumbs up. A massive improvement.

I'm booked for the other side in 2 weeks. The doc says that after both sides are done and healed I should be able to throw the glasses away for good. (Except for readers which I needed anyway.)
 

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Yeah, I've come to find out that eyes are like shock absorbers. They degrade so slowly over time that you don't realize just how bad they have gotten until you bolt on some new ones. Modern micro-surgery is totally amazing. The operation was a piece of cake. I was awake and talking with the surgeon the whole time.

We are lucky to live in an age when such things are possible. In the past, people used to slowly go blind as they aged and everyone just accepted it as inevitable.

I always look forward to each spring's first motorcycle ride but the first ride this year will definitely be something special.
 

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Yeah, I've come to find out that eyes are like shock absorbers. They degrade so slowly over time that you don't realize just how bad they have gotten until you bolt on some new ones. Modern micro-surgery is totally amazing. The operation was a piece of cake. I was awake and talking with the surgeon the whole time.

We are lucky to live in an age when such things are possible. In the past, people used to slowly go blind as they aged and everyone just accepted it as inevitable.

I always look forward to each spring's first motorcycle ride but the first ride this year will definitely be something special.
Good luck with the healing. Was that something that insurance covers or something? Or is that considered a voluntary or vanity or whatever they consider type of surgery that you have to go out of pocket? Ive come to notice in the last year that my vision has done exactly what your saying...decay with age and I haven't done anything to address it yet. I'm not a glasses kinda guy and hate touching my eyes.
 

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Thanks for the positive thoughts, guys.

@NOTHING: Where I live (in BC) the basic cataract removal and artificial lens implantation is 100% covered by the provincial medical services plan. I can't speak for other jurisdictions but in my opinion keeping people from going blind shouldn't be classed as a "voluntary or vanity" type of surgery.

I opted to pay $350 per eye more out of my own pocket to get an additional procedure to correct for astigmatism. Without the add-on I'd wind up with good vision but would likely still have to wear glasses because the astigmatism isn't corrected by the implant alone. So $700 out of my pocket with the rest covered by the BC government insurance. Fair enough. We pay 7% provincial sales tax on darn near everything here so now I get to claim myself a nice fat rebate on that, thank you very much.

P.S: Just got back from the post-op exam and in less than 24 hours my left eye now reads 20-20 with zero astigmatism. Ya-hoo! One down, one to go.
 
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