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I'm new to modern cycling. I just got a 2005 ex-500 w/ stock tires w/ 3,000 miles on them & some one here suggested I change them. I saw the Topic about the Pirelli Sport Demon tires but... I'm not a track racer, nor am I Mr Speedy-boy on the streets.

I'd appreciate a tire with good mileage & price, but not at the expense of emergency traction, including on wet roads.

Any suggestions for, & experiences with, a good 3-season, midwest, suburban-commuter sport tire?
 

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I like good four season tires since I ride year round here in NE Ohio. :) Your 05 Ex500 probably came with the very average at best Bridgestone Excedra tires so any of the current name brand bias ply sport touring tires will be a big improvement. The newest and most up to date of these are the Pirelli Demons, the Metzeler Lasertecs, and the Michelin Pilot Actives all of which should give you noticeable improvement in both wet as well as dry traction.

The Demons seem to be most popular of these with the EX riders due to their performance level but I prefer the Lasertecs myself. Just got over 10k miles from a rear Lasertec which I replaced with a very sticky Conti Road Attack radial and am still running the Lasertec front with it and which has about 12k miles on it now.

If your looking for a less expensive tire for mostly commuter duty, you might take a look at the Avon AM51/52 tires. Considerably less price and quite decent performance with about the same tire life if your not dragging pegs in the twisties.
 

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I run the pilots and love em. they hold the twisties pretty good, are decent in the rain. there a little crappy when there cold (temps below 40) but warm up within a few miles. i've got about 7000 on my set and think i can get around 8000. litttle slick on the concrete when it's wet, but handles the blacktop real good.
 

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I run the pilots and love em. they hold the twisties pretty good, are decent in the rain. there a little crappy when there cold (temps below 40) but warm up within a few miles. i've got about 7000 on my set and think i can get around 8000. litttle slick on the concrete when it's wet, but handles the blacktop real good.
Keep the ideas & experiences coming.

I never push the corners nor drag race... no racer am I. So I select tires that maximize my chances at surviving the unexpected... usually involving damp/slick roads, emergency maneuvers & braking.

I mention that hoping that your group experience will offer up ideas.
I likely wouldn't buy tires until spring... unless someone has a set sitting in storage that would suit me but were not suited for canyon carving or tracks.
 
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My bike came with Pilot Activ's, so I have no real comparison - but that being said, they feel super grippy once they warm up, and I put on 20k this season with no noticeable tread wear. When I took it off the road last week, it was negative one out, and I still took the off-ramps with a good lean at a good speed, and didn't feel any slide.

Mine are still in great shape, and will likely last me a good portion of next season too.
 

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a good commuting tire is going to be one that lasts and lasts and lasts. the Exccedra is just fine for that. however there is better rubber for about the same price, if not a little cheaper.
 

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Here is an old cached page on the ex500riders.com about the Avon AM51/52 maybe it will help..


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Here is an old cached page on the ex500riders.com about the Avon AM51/52 maybe it will help..

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When I went to reply, the URL showed up in the quote box, so I copied & pasted. Key statements:

ToeCutter wrote: Well, after a few hundred miles and a couple of rainstorms I can say the following:

These Avons are good tires, especially when compared to the stock Exedras. They handle well, have excellent geometry, and are very neutral. They are adequate in every category for road-riding, including wet weather, but it is not apparent at this point that they excel in any one category. Perhaps they will excel in mileage, but only time will tell. However, the compound leaves a bit to be desired for me. They just aren't as sticky as I'd like. Again, better than the Exedras, and a bit less glue than the BT-45s, but certainly not among the best.

I'm sorry that this report is...well...bland, but that is exactly how I view these tires after riding on them for a bit. They are adequate, but I liked the BT-45s better than these. I guess that's what I get for being cheap.

Avon appears to be coming out with a new X-ply tire in our sizes called the Roadrider that may very well compete with the likes of Pirelli's Sport Demons, and Michelin's Pilot Activs. Who wants to be the first to TOFTT?

I'll be riding as much as I can to wear these tires out. I can't think of a more enjoyable way to spend my time until I get new rubber.


GSJack wrote: I check in here regularly to read the tire section since the 94 and later EX500 tires and wheels are same sizes as my GS500s have. I ran a 110/70 Z4 and a 130/80 Z2 for the 02 season and put on another set of same for 03. For the 04 season, I wore out a pair of AM45/46 tires.

After three years of good sport touring radials, I decided to try the bargain price AM51/52 bias tires this year. They are not bad tires and if they would just change the profile shape of the rear they would be a real bargain. I found I was puting all the wear on the center 3" of the tire and during aggresive cornering I was running on a narror half inch strip where the outer inch or so of tread turns abruptly away. I was cornering on that abrupt corner and not getting any closer to the edge. The tire stuck good cornering on concrete or blacktop but if I hit a tar snake or a metal strip where a bridge connects to the road it broke away quickly every time.

After many miles the tire squared badly due to it's wierd shape and with about 9k miles on it I hit a construction grooved road where the grooves were a bit deeper and a bit wiggly in shape and the bike was all over the place. I replaced the rear with a 150/70 Lasertec. Ran the front AM51 another 800 miles and replaced it with a front 110/80 Lasertec. These Lasertecs are great so far but will hold off on final opinion till I wear them out next year. Really do give radial type handling with a bias tire like Metz claims. The AM51/52s probably had another 2k miles till they hit the markers but the handling had become too annoying.

In over 100k miles on the GSs, I've had OEM Excedra, BT45, ME33, GT501, Z4, BT010, AV45, and AM51 tires on the front, not including the new Lasertec. All of these tires bevelled and cupped badly except the old ME33 Laser which wore evenly all the way down. Since the new Lasertec front has the old ME33 tread pattern with modern construction and compounds, I decided to give them a try.


Toerider adds: Talked to an Avon rep at the Chicago motorcycle show a few weeks ago. It seems as though Avon was a bit quick to announce the RoadRider tires. They are coming, but won't be out until the fourth quarter of '06. Linky: Avon RoadRider
http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/?ProdType=TouringXply
 

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