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it's only corny if you don't get the European psychology of naming things, it's label is important to define it as a product.
like bikes sold with differing CC's think how many Hondas the US got with varying CC's from 200 to a 1000 totally lost in Europe. we got only 4 or 5 that sold well because of the bracket they fit into so you could go from 250 to 500 with 10 different models but only the 250 and 500 would sell, give the 250 one name and the 500 another and they had a winner nothing in between was worth it, why would anyone choose a 360cc when one limit was 250 and the next one 500.
if you could ride a 500 you wouldn't ride one and if your limit was 250 you couldn't ride one. been that way for decades once it's in the mindset it sticks even when the licence laws changed.
very few bikes here are outside certain CC's so those that are need a name to distinguish them from all the rest. corny to the outsiders may be it is.
 

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if anyone has any stories or experiences to share as to what these are like, i'd love to hear them! i love the style of these and would love to ride one one day, especially the first two years before the facelift. god i love that twin headlight look. price creep is certainly real though, can you believe people have paid 50k for these (though to be fair it is bat, which often has some of the dumbest price results)?!?!
 

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it's only corny if you don't get the European psychology of naming things
No. It’s just corny. Naming a product requires market research if the product is going to be a sales success.

Take the Chevrolet Nova for example. Sales success in US, a flop of epic proportions in South America. Nova meaning “slow” in Spanish.

Thunder Cat? Thunder Ace? C’mon Yamaha you can do better than that. Seriously, if the name fire blade came from the Japanese word for lightening, where does that leave Thunder?
Everyone knows Thunder follows lightening.
 

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No. It’s just corny. Naming a product requires market research if the product is going to be a sales success.

Take the Chevrolet Nova for example. Sales success in US, a flop of epic proportions in South America. Nova meaning “slow” in Spanish.
Nova also means bright star take your pick. just can't imagine iconic bikes without names, where would Vincent have been without the black shadow, or Triumph without the bonneville. Vincent VT1000 or triumph T130 doesn't have the same ring to it somehow.
 

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Bonneville is in reference to the Bonneville Salt Flats is it not? That’s a different story. Much like the Daytona name. Both are references to a famous race course where a victory was achieved or a record set.

Like Ducati naming a bike Paso in homage to Renzo Pasolini, or Triumph with their T120 there is a tangible reference that has meaning.

Choosing a nonsensical name that put the bike in second place to a competitor before it even reaches the buying public….. Not the same thing.
 

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if anyone has any stories or experiences to share as to what these are like, i'd love to hear them! i love the style of these and would love to ride one one day, especially the first two years before the facelift. god i love that twin headlight look. price creep is certainly real though, can you believe people have paid 50k for these (though to be fair it is bat, which often has some of the dumbest price results)?!?!
There is one currently for sale in your (our) neck of the woods on Bay Area CL for a modest $2800.

It looks to be complete though clearly been down on one side and has a big dent in the pipe. It’s a 1995 from memory so just before the displacement bump.

In fact, it is the bike that inspired my BOD post. CL is normally inspiration for a BOD when I see a bike that brings back a specific memory.
 

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There is one currently for sale in your (our) neck of the woods on Bay Area CL for a modest $2800.

It looks to be complete though clearly been down on one side and has a big dent in the pipe. It’s a 1995 from memory so just before the displacement bump.

In fact, it is the bike that inspired my BOD post. CL is normally inspiration for a BOD when I see a bike that brings back a specific memory.
i saw that one yesterday! also quite a few 4th gen vfrs recently. so many juicy bikes, so little moneys. hmm i don't think i'm on craigslist quite as much as you are, but i do always go check when you mention something cool here haha
 

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Husqvarna Svartpilen 401.
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Really not my style…and I have zero interest in owning one. Maybe if it were given to me. First thing to go would be those tires.

I walked out of work today, on my way to another building and there was one of these parked right next to my work ATV.

Looks slightly better in person. Up close it’s a tiny motorcycle. Sorta between a Ninja 250 and an Aprilia RS125. SMALL. I don’t think I’d actually fit on it.

Anyway, fit & finish looks top notch. Suspension is WP front & rear. Everything looked quite well made and put together.

From the looks of the axle and fastener sizes….the front end looks like it could swap right on to an EX.
 
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Reading through one of my online subscriptions, Practical Sportsbikes magazine, they featured an interesting “special” this month.

A rider in the UK, Scotland to be specific created an 851 replica from an ST2. I’m a big fan of early Ducati Superbikes but the thought of actually owning one makes me apprehensive.

An ST2 based 851 replica….that I could consider without the sweaty palms and heart palpitations. The guy even kept the stock tank!

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Looks legit to the casual or untrained observer.
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Underneath the bodywork is a stock ST2. The only non-stock parts are the swing arm (from an S4 Monster) the front subframe (modded 900SS) and mirrors ( period correct Vitaloni Baby Turbos).

Interstingly, the builder kept the OEM seat and screwed the aftermarket solo tail to it, filling in the gaps with expanding foam and glassing over it once shaped. Self painted too.
 
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Ducati 888. In production for just 1993 & 1994 it is possibly the rarest of the DesmoQuattro Superbikes. While the 1991 & 1992 851s actually displaced 888cc these were sold to the public as 851s.

1993 was the only full year of 888 production because for 1994, the 916 debuted half way through the model year. In total fewer than 3800 bikes came off the line badged as 888s. The vast majority were Strada models with passenger “accommodations”.

The remaining few were SPO or SP5 models of the 888. 500 were SP5s and 390 were SPO models built for the US market. Apparently the rest of the world did not get the SPO.
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SP5 above, SPO below
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STRADA:

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To my knowledge, the SPO was something of a compromise to meet US emissions and noise standards. It was basically an SP5 with Strada cams and matching ECU. More to it than that but those were the basic differences. Visually….not a great deal of difference. I think there might be fewer 998s but as the 998 engine is a “Testastretta” rather than a Desmo Quattro…..
 
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