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I know that woodcraft makes a set of clip-ons for the pre-94 ex500's, does anyone else? Anybody have a cheaper recommendation?

What about rearsets? Does anyone make such a thing for the pre-94's?
 

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If you want cheaper options you can find zx6 bar risers which lower your bar height 2". Here's some info from 'dad':

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The ones I have used, from the ZX-600C series and prior to A, listed as available from 1988 to 1997, are just like the risers on our EX's except for the fact that they're about 1 1/4" shorter and angled differently, about 5 degrees down, netting out at about 2" lower at the grip. They also have a radius shape that needs to be filed off. It is in the plane parallel to the bolt holes. All else is bolt on including the handlebar from ours. It bolts right into the 600 riser the same as the 500.
It cost me $20 with shipping, as soon as I get the bars in I'll take some pics. As far as rearsets go, just make them yourself. Take 1/4" aluminum stock, not the cheap stuff at hardware stores, get 6061 or 2024 from a machineshop. You just need to make 4 holes; 2 where the plate will be bolted tot he frame and 2 wherever you want them. I have mine 2" up and 1" back. I forgot the hole sizes but your gonna have to drill and tap 3 holes and use a 1" hole saw for the other(right side lower hole). Just gonna take some pics but I forgot my camera is at my girlfriends house. Gonna get it today hopefully.
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FretlessMetal said:
If you want cheaper options you can find zx6 bar risers which lower your bar height 2". Here's some info from 'dad':

dad said:
The ones I have used, from the ZX-600C series and prior to A, listed as available from 1988 to 1997, are just like the risers on our EX's except for the fact that they're about 1 1/4" shorter and angled differently, about 5 degrees down, netting out at about 2" lower at the grip. They also have a radius shape that needs to be filed off. It is in the plane parallel to the bolt holes. All else is bolt on including the handlebar from ours. It bolts right into the 600 riser the same as the 500.
It cost me $20 with shipping, as soon as I get the bars in I'll take some pics. As far as rearsets go, just make them yourself. Take 1/4" aluminum stock, not the cheap stuff at hardware stores, get 6061 or 2024 from a machineshop. You just need to make 4 holes; 2 where the plate will be bolted tot he frame and 2 wherever you want them. I have mine 2" up and 1" back. I forgot the hole sizes but your gonna have to drill and tap 3 holes and use a 1" hole saw for the other(right side lower hole). Just gonna take some pics but I forgot my camera is at my girlfriends house. Gonna get it today hopefully.
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-Matthew
I will have to look into the zx600 bars...

Wow that definatly sounds like something I could do, I would love to see some pics of those rearsets. Did you see any real advantages after you did this?
 

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FretlessMetal, I have to see that setup, please take detailed picts, I'm currently looking into having my bars raised a bit and pulled back a tad. I'm also on a tight budget, your concept sound very appealing.

Thanks a million :)
 

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FretlessMetal, I have to see that setup, please take detailed picts, I'm currently looking into having my bars raised a bit and pulled back a tad. I'm also on a tight budget, your concept sound very appealing.

Thanks a million :)
raised and back? now, this would be even more of a standard, or even touring position right?
im curious because if anything id want my bars lower and farther away from me, more of a SS position..

the zx6r bars make the bike position a bit more sportier right?
 

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FretlessMetal said:
If you want cheaper options you can find zx6 bar risers which lower your bar height 2". Here's some info from 'dad':

dad said:
The ones I have used, from the ZX-600C series and prior to A, listed as available from 1988 to 1997, are just like the risers on our EX's except for the fact that they're about 1 1/4" shorter and angled differently, about 5 degrees down, netting out at about 2" lower at the grip. They also have a radius shape that needs to be filed off. It is in the plane parallel to the bolt holes. All else is bolt on including the handlebar from ours. It bolts right into the 600 riser the same as the 500.
wow... this sounds interesting I would really like to see the pictures of your rear sets and clip ons when your done, seriously. After my crash I've been thinking about using it as an opportunity to change a few things around.

It cost me $20 with shipping, as soon as I get the bars in I'll take some pics. As far as rearsets go, just make them yourself. Take 1/4" aluminum stock, not the cheap stuff at hardware stores, get 6061 or 2024 from a machineshop. You just need to make 4 holes; 2 where the plate will be bolted tot he frame and 2 wherever you want them. I have mine 2" up and 1" back. I forgot the hole sizes but your gonna have to drill and tap 3 holes and use a 1" hole saw for the other(right side lower hole). Just gonna take some pics but I forgot my camera is at my girlfriends house. Gonna get it today hopefully.
Hope that helps
-Matthew
 

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Frog said:
FretlessMetal, I have to see that setup, please take detailed picts, I'm currently looking into having my bars raised a bit and pulled back a tad. I'm also on a tight budget, your concept sound very appealing.

Thanks a million :)
clip-ons = handlebars
rearsets = footpegs

I don't think Fretless has the same idea as you do.
 

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D'oh !!

I thought that the 'rearsets' were installed on the handlebars.. (2'' up and 1'' back)

My bad, I'm not interested in moving my pegs (yet). ;)

Thanks for correcting me.
 

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what is the advantage of switching to a rear set setup?what is the purpose of them?
Custom pegs. You can move them really anywhere you want. Need more banking angle? Raise them up. need your pegs lowered a bit? do so. Drag racing? Move them to the furthest back setting. You can place them just about anywhere you need them/want them. that's what makes them so desireable (well, the good one's anyway) on other bikes. complete cutomability for your riding stance.
 

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FYI, some of the fastest experts at Loudon have almost 100% stock bikes asside from suspension & tires. The champion of the last few years still has stock handlebars & footpegs.... so they're far from necessary. If my race bike didn't come w/ Woodcraft rearsets & clip-ons, I really doubt I would have spent the money... but if you're gonna, I HIGHLY recommend Woodcraft.
 

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FYI, some of the fastest experts at Loudon have almost 100% stock bikes asside from suspension & tires. The champion of the last few years still has stock handlebars & footpegs.... so they're far from necessary. If my race bike didn't come w/ Woodcraft rearsets & clip-ons, I really doubt I would have spent the money... but if you're gonna, I HIGHLY recommend Woodcraft.
no ****.....?!! I would have figured you hooligans would be scrapin' pegs left and right (literally!). Are you running stock sets on your ZX6R? EVERYONE who runs (religously) a CBR on tracks, either racing or just likes to spend money on track days [nothing wrong with that] uses aftermarket Rearsets. they say the stockers get in the way.
 

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They get in the way under two conditions.... 1 - you're goin REALLY frikkin fast & have some serious lean angle going or 2 - You're not using proper technique.

I have stock footpegs on my ZX6R. no rearsets... I got to the point where I used to drag them alot until I learned how to ride fast with good technique. Now I go faster, carry more cornerspeed and even more lean angle believe it or not, but I haven't dragged my pegs in a long time. The way I do this is i get OFF the seat, use proper body position, use positive steering inputs (faster turn-in actually results in less lean angle through the turn) and get ON the gas nice & early. This raises the suspension and gives you more ground clearance.

On my EX I have woodcraft rearsets (came that way). I dunno if i'd scrape them before the exhaust or not. I've dragged my headers before, both sides. Think i've posted the pic before, but i've got a shot of me exiting turn 10 & hitting the NASCAR transition at NHIS w/ sparks behind my rear tire from the header grazing the pavment. I had no idea I even did that untill one day my teammate said to our teammates "****, it's fun chasin Pete around w/ him sparkin up everywhere". Since then I've raised the rear suspension to where it's actually supposed to be & that helped alot... I'll also probably trim the crossover pipe and push the headers closer together & further underneath the frame. (sparky pic, for those that haven't seen it ;D)

Early in a rider's career there comes a point where scraping footpegs becomes kind of a bragging right cuz it means you're gettin the bike leaned way over... But then later there comes another point where you realize NOT scraping footpegs is better, cuz it means you're doing it right.

But with that said, I woudln't be suprised one bit if the top experts that still have stock pegs have ground a bit off of them from scraping the pavment.
 

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Since then I've raised the rear suspension to where it's actually supposed to be & that helped alot...
pfft, wouldve been waaaay cooler if you said since then you've poked a hole in your tank and have been leaving a trail of fire in your wake.
 

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i was gonna, but i held myself back from doing that... you know, for track safey & all ;D

Besides, I already do that w/ my BLAZING SPEED....
Once I hit 88mph, you're gonna see some serious sh!t :eek: :D
 

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i was gonna, but i held myself back from doing that... you know, for track safey & all ;D

Besides, I already do that w/ my BLAZING SPEED....
Once I hit 88mph, you're gonna see some serious sh!t :eek: :D
omg hahahahahaha

track safety?pish posh.
good day to you sir.
 

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OreoGaborio said:
i was gonna, but i held myself back from doing that... you know, for track safey & all ;D

Besides, I already do that w/ my BLAZING SPEED....
Once I hit 88mph, you're gonna see some serious sh!t :eek: :D
GREAT SCOTT!!!!

So then where do you mount your flux capacitor and Mr. Fusion?
 

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no sh!t.....?!! I would have figured you hooligans would be scrapin' pegs left and right (literally!). Are you running stock sets on your ZX6R? EVERYONE who runs (religously) a CBR on tracks, either racing or just likes to spend money on track days [nothing wrong with that] uses aftermarket Rearsets. they say the stockers get in the way.
Specifically F-4's have a little bit of an issue like that. The pegs are a little low. Some of the older bikes, and certainly the newest crop of bikes don't have that problem nearly as much. The EX is fairly narrow, which helps, and has scraping issues as Oreo pointed out, the worst of which isn't pegs but other stuff. That's a reason to raise it up as is discussed in the suspension columns now and again. Back up 1 1/2" and front up 1/2", sprung properly, they don't have a serious scraping problem.

Using rearsets on the street can be a nuisance because they tend to pitch you forward and invite leaning on the bars, something you never want to do. The hard accelleration of track riding constantly forcing you rearward neutralizes that effect and can actually be helpful to keep you off the bars. Also, on EX's the accelleration isn't so hard that the rearward force is that much, part of the reason many don't find them so important for that reason, as they might on a bigger bike. Just some thoughts from my experience on mine and on other bikes.
 
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