Other than checking with the manufacturer, there is only one way to find out.
I think an expert would be needed if the fake was a "good" fake. But an obvious fake would not require an expert.one needs an expert witness namely the alleged manufacturer of the said chain ie RK. only they can really say if the chain was made by them. or someone else.
I agree with this to a certain level. It's mostly dependent on what product we're discussing. Example, lemons are going to run ramped in the automotive industry, probably in the MC's also. Having to do with a big assembly line, giving it a large margin for human error. Things constantly changing from year to year. On the other end of the spectrum, if you were to buy a Craftsman box end wrench, you would be really hard pressed to find a lemon. Drive chains would fall somewhere in the middle, but I think a lot closer to the lower end of the spectrum.the assumption that all manufactured goods are of similar quality doesn't hold water.
One thing is for sure. Kawasaki is outsourcing some of the manufacturing of OEM parts to the Chinese.Wouldn't that be a hoot if Kawi sold the EX tooling to the Chinese and they made 'counterfeit' EX500s? :wink2:
I may not be understanding what your implying. But I will give it a shot. :grin2: The Germans are not going to outsource anything to Mexico, that's more of an American thing. But I think they (Germans) are outsourcing to Eastern European countries. Pardon me if this wasn't germane to the discussion.Kinds like VW with Mexican Bugs!
VW is similar to U.S. G.M. with really below-average quality, doesn't even compare to BMW or Porsche. They moved original Beetle production rights and plants to Distribuidora Volkswagen Central, S.A decades ago. While Germany VW focused on New Beetle.I may not be understanding what your implying. But I will give it a shot. :grin2: The Germans are not going to outsource anything to Mexico, that's more of an American thing. But I think they (Germans) are outsourcing to Eastern European countries. Pardon me if this wasn't germane to the discussion.
I would say doubtful, but can't say for sure.I wonder if RK is using subcontractors who may be selling their chains on the side.
I doubt the US can do it as cost effective as Japan, quality or otherwise. At least without violating federal laws :surprise:. I'm not going to elaborate on this point.I'm wondering if RK has similar US-production methods, or even subcontracts production to U.S. factories.
Yeah, I can understand all of those responses.Interesting stuff, and well thought out. At the end of the day, however, RK will want to see your suspect chain and do their own analysis. What I don't know, is what will happen if they find you are the victim of an unauthorized chain? I would not be surprised tif they have received other such cases.
On a personal level, the 530XSOZ1 chain I purchased from Amazon (supplied by Amazon, and not a third-party affiliate) also came in an 'O' ring box box, exactly the same as your top picture. The box had a barcode sticker with the correct chain spec. The chain inside is 'marked' with the correct spec.
Is the box just an oversight, or normal RK business practice? Don't know.
Did I get a bogus chain? Don't know.
Am I at least a bit concerned? Yes.
Should I let Amazon know of my concern? Yes.
Should I raise a concern with RK? Probably.
Am I going to send the chain to RK? Not likely.
Honestly I would just want some smoking gun evidence before involving RK.With the obvious need for scrutiny including the missing, actual *internal composition* of suspect chains (compared to confirmed genuine samples) , packaging materials, production codes, factory markings...... I'd urge consultation of an expert witness.....
They can interpret all evidence presented so far by @bpe
Until such a time, I'd call for dismissal based on insufficient evidence, Your Honor.
On the contrary, involving RK would enable them to provide valid, indisputable evidence, irrespective of your cleaning methods,
putting this long drama... errrr, court case....to rest, Mr DA.