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Check the starter button for corrosion. I chased a similar issue for a long time where sometimes the bike would start and sometimes the junction box would buzz/click. I was always able to push start it and had good lighting/running, so I assumed it was a charging issue. I replaced the battery with a new AGM, replaced the R/R with Ducatiman's MOSFET unit and I even went as far as replacing the junction box. After repeated searching though past posts I saw a common theme, almost always posted by FOG, to check the starter button. Finally cracked mine open one day, saw some lovely green corrosion, cleaned it up and haven't had a problem since. On the plus side I have a way more reliable R/R now...
 

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battery strength + condition also important factors here
 

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I would try shorting out the two big wires on the solenoid, (with a screwdriver) to see if the starter operates (manually) if it does then the solenoid (or wiring) is probably faulty, I for one doubt the starter button is the issue as you can hear the relay clicking, it wouldn't click if the button was inoperable. the clicking is the relay in the fuse box that can only work if power is going through it and in order for this to happen the power has to be going through the button switch.
 

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Got everything hooked up and when I hit start button the junction box just clicks any body got suggestions
I would try shorting out the two big wires on the solenoid, (with a screwdriver) to see if the starter operates (manually) if it does then the solenoid (or wiring) is probably faulty, I for one doubt the starter button is the issue as you can hear the relay clicking, it wouldn't click if the button was inoperable. the clicking is the relay in the fuse box that can only work if power is going through it and in order for this to happen the power has to be going through the button switch.
Okay so what do you think is my problem
 

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Okay so what do you think is my problem
seriously !!!. I have no idea I'm not there but 6000miles away. in order to complete a repair, you have to do diagnostics to find the fault, this is a two way street.
you report a problem, members use their knowledge and advise you to use a set of tests to isolate the issue, in return you do the tests and report back with the results. from the information given it may be possible to work out the issue, or advise to do further tests. to narrow the fault even further. you report back with new results. and this continues until a resolution is found. this works 99.999% of the time.
without this two way communication finding a solution is just a lottery. like pick an answer at random and keep repeating until one finds the right one. those that try this approach either give up or find out it becomes expensive buying parts they don't need or doing it wrong and make the issue worse.

So in a (humorous) reply your main problem is not communicating with those trying to help,
 

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seriously !!!. I have no idea I'm not there but 6000miles away. in order to complete a repair, you have to do diagnostics to find the fault, this is a two way street.
you report a problem, members use their knowledge and advise you to use a set of tests to isolate the issue, in return you do the tests and report back with the results. from the information given it may be possible to work out the issue, or advise to do further tests. to narrow the fault even further. you report back with new results. and this continues until a resolution is found. this works 99.999% of the time.
without this two way communication finding a solution is just a lottery. like pick an answer at random and keep repeating until one finds the right one. those that try this approach either give up or find out it becomes expensive buying parts they don't need or doing it wrong and make the issue worse.

So in a (humorous) reply your main problem is not communicating with those trying to help,
Well really hadn't worked on it resent so I just told you what I now and sorry for wasting anyone's time this is my first time using something like this
 

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nobody is wasting anybody's time but surely you understand information is key to doing a repair constant guessing without feedback is just guessing. in my view your solenoid is stuck but without testing it. you will never know, the tests on the unit determine what to do next. or where else to look. goes to reason. if you are reluctant to do this (some are) it just makes thing harder and far more difficult. that's all.
 

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I for one doubt the starter button is the issue as you can hear the relay clicking, it wouldn't click if the button was inoperable. the clicking is the relay in the fuse box that can only work if power is going through it and in order for this to happen the power has to be going through the button switch.
This is what confounded me for so long because you are correct. Apparently my starter button was partially corroded enough that sometime I would get a good connection, sometimes not (maybe temperature, humidity, position of the stars in the sky...). All of the common wiring tests passed and shorting the starter worked, so I, wound up there. As usual, had I searched the archives better and earlier, and listened to FOG, I would have solved it with much less time and expense.

Regardless, it would be nice to know what happened when OP shorted his starter...
 

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@kensei I agree with you, there is nothing more infuriating than a intermittent fault, as it seems to work when tested.
in your case I would have suggested the live wire solenoid test. and isolated the button wiring circuit.
I have a similar fault on the gen 2. most times it starts sometimes (when it feels like it) it doesn't, yet every test works out fine. now if (when it fails to start, note. usually in the middle of nowhere) I sit on the bike push the bars full lock left then right, back to straight. it starts every time.
obviously, there is a bad connection somewhere, but this is a modified bike with modified cut down electrics, and nonstock parts. until the day it fails to go at all and then the fault can be traced, I doubt being able to find it.

as for the OP and other newbie members, they really should realise that interaction with those trying to help would indeed save them a lot of time and expense, as many of the experienced (advisors) often say "if any of us were right there the bike would be running within 1 hour" but were not, are we, and just have to rely on information given to us, if that info is scant or non-existent there is very little we can do except just keep guessing.
often the original post is all we ever get so never know if we were able to help or not. it can get annoying at times.
and more important for them may decrease the replies they get next time they have a problem.
(mini) rant over. "have a nice day" everyone.
 

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