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Its gonna be asked at somepoint I'm SURE of it. So anyone posting in the general discussions/mods &upgrades can be moved here so it doesnt spam up the acutal content of that thread....and you may actually want to stickey it right at the top so it does not become a huge repetative post. I belive we had a 11 page debate on the last forum, and that was only 1 of 10 started wheelie topics lol. Yes i have videos/tutorials...so be the first to ask and ill gladly start the debate.

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im not very big on wheelies, particularly because im not very good at them, but i have been able to wheelie from red lights by reving and almost dumping the clutch, just slipping the last bit. that gives me about a 1' pop and a pretty fast launch. also i have tried rolling in first gear, pulling in the clutch, revving to about 7-8k and popping the clutch, which gives a bigger pop, but i cant keep it up for very long.
 

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madd-dogg11 said:
when you just dump the clutch how fast does the front tire come up ? like scary fast or is it controllable
depends on how high your RPM is at. you dump the clutch, the bike moves IMMEDIATELY.
 

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Ok once i state this, its going to cause confusion and a debate, so then.....

I don't clutch wheelies, for the main reason of unpredictablity. If your not fimilar with wheelies, or your bike in general its hard to predict how much throttle to give, how fast to give it, where to position your body weight, and once it comes up, how to keep it there. A lot of people will say its only a 500, it cant wheelie. Well, it can. Its not recomended, because carb run bikes dont get gasoline when there standing straight up, and also the oilflow becomes comprimised and you may see your oil light come on...bad news. The other thing is the suspension is not made for hard landings, meaning, you get scared when it comes up and then you slam the bike down on the ground...it can cause you to blow your fork seals and or bend your forks. Anyway.... Like i said i dont clutch wheelies....i use the power of the bike. Argue if you will that you can crack your throttle wide open without reving it and the front wont come up....but it can with proper technique. I have vidoes of onboard, offboard, of not using a clutch and successfully, riding out 1st gear by powering it up. No engine mods except a vance and hines exhuast, no gear/sproket mods either, there bone stock. No jetting, no pod filters.

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lol i knew it was coming. ok....ill rewrite it up.

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the easy way to power it up is to gear it up in the rear.
true but this is without any sprocket/gear mods. Did you ever read that really obscene long post about these lol.....hope we dont go there again.

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i did. it made my head hurt.

i still think the easy way to do it is to gear it. You'll get **** for milage, but if you want to wheelie, you're not looking for milage anyway.
 

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I've seen vids of the 250 wheelied, so I have no doubt the 500 can too. Sometimes I want to try cause it looks like fun, but I don't want to mess up my bike or myself if I screw something up.
 

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My bike is all stock, except for the Fi slip-ons. I can wheelie it by running 1rst up to about 4500-5000rpm, let off, as soon as the forks get close to fully compressed get back on the gas and the front lifts pretty smooth and controlled. It wheelies easier than my zx7r, well atleast smoother. ;D
 

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luke it sounds to me like you dont change gears....you just lay back on the throttle. makes sense..letting it compress..you just let the weight transfer bounce the front rather than doing it yourself by leaning foward then back.
 

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true but this is without any sprocket/gear mods. Did you ever read that really obscene long post about these lol.....hope we dont go there again.

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"You're lying, you have aftermarket sprockets. I have a stock bike and I've tried to wheelie 1 kerbillion times and it won't come up."

Something like that, right? ;) :D
 

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That is what I am saying. I haven't got it up in 2nd, I really haven't tried but in 1rst it is quite easy once you get the hang of when to get back onto the throttle. I just run it up to about 4500, let off the throttle, when it is almostt all the way compressed get back on the throttle and it comes right up.
 

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I clutched one up in front of a friend's house a while back (he was egging me on, I had to try it ;) ). I think I revved to about 8K and she popped right up, I'm guessing about 18" off the ground. I've tried pow-pow-powerwheelies and I think I lean forward to much, fearing what may happen. Except for running WOT and hitting 2nd hard I've never brought the wheel up under power.
 

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Clutching up is necessary to get the EX all the way up to the BP, at least for me. I get going fast enough to have some stability and rev on up to around 9.5-10K so that when the clutch engages it drops right down to about the highest torque point of the engine. I keep two fingers under the clutch lever to keep some drive on the back wheel too but it's mostly slip. Then let out and whammo up she comes. It works on my wife's EN too except I can't stand up on that to assist balance so I don't let it come up really high.

Clutching should allow any bike to be wheelied but for some reason my buddy won't let me prove it on his Goldwing. :D
 
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