Newb Question....Dogbones?
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jake,
dog bones are a part of the rear suspension and to a degree pretty much control the range of motion. quite simply put the "dog bones" are just 2 flat peices of metal (1 on each side) with holes in each end. one end is bolted to the swing arm, the other to the frame.
why youd want to change them falls into 2 main catagories. some shorter rides (such as myself) look at using a set aftermarket/home fabbed dogbones to lower the suspension. other taller or track people use them to raise the suspension and give it a better stance.
keep in mind ANY change such as aftermarket dog bones will change your steering and handling geometry. its often advised that you find other ways to make your adjustments rather than changing the suspension like that.
dog bones are a part of the rear suspension and to a degree pretty much control the range of motion. quite simply put the "dog bones" are just 2 flat peices of metal (1 on each side) with holes in each end. one end is bolted to the swing arm, the other to the frame.
why youd want to change them falls into 2 main catagories. some shorter rides (such as myself) look at using a set aftermarket/home fabbed dogbones to lower the suspension. other taller or track people use them to raise the suspension and give it a better stance.
keep in mind ANY change such as aftermarket dog bones will change your steering and handling geometry. its often advised that you find other ways to make your adjustments rather than changing the suspension like that.
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Longer dogbones will lower the rear end of the bike, and shorter ones will raise it up. Dad is the expert on them, he's making me a set to raise the rear of my bike an inch to an inch and half. he just made it on to here today if you need a set he can do em up, if you ask him and he has the time. any suspension questions you may have, dad is good one to talk to about it. That man knows the ex inside and out. he's been known to grind off his pegs when he rides.
The uncomplicated version of dogbones
Drill the holes 1/4 cloer together on center = 1-1.5 inches higher in the butt
Drill the holes 1/2 closer together on center = 1.5-2.0 inches higher in the butt
Drill more than 1/2 closer together on center = Stupidity.
This will affect your riding height, your center of balance, and your cornering may feel like your "falling into it" As schetchy as the stock tires where with stock dogbones going around corners, i wouldnt suggest changing them to give you a higher ride unless you partner the change witha sticker tire to go with them. Thats what i did, and it really did feel like a better ride over all.
Janinja
Drill the holes 1/4 cloer together on center = 1-1.5 inches higher in the butt
Drill the holes 1/2 closer together on center = 1.5-2.0 inches higher in the butt
Drill more than 1/2 closer together on center = Stupidity.
This will affect your riding height, your center of balance, and your cornering may feel like your "falling into it" As schetchy as the stock tires where with stock dogbones going around corners, i wouldnt suggest changing them to give you a higher ride unless you partner the change witha sticker tire to go with them. Thats what i did, and it really did feel like a better ride over all.
Janinja
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Conversly does increasing the cc length 1/4" lower the butt 1-1.5"??Janinja said:
The height change will be at a nominal ratio of 3.5:1. Shorter raises, longer lowers. Example: .25" X 3.5=.875" and .5" x 3.5=1.75"
Due to angles involved the accuracy will vary slightly but should be accurate to a max of 1/8" error working at 2" change or less. That has been my direct experience.
I wouldn't lower the rear at all due to already limited corner clearance. It can and has been done but it further limits the clearance available and scraping hard parts like the lower fairing and eventually the pipes or centerstand arm, begs to unload the tires and send the bike skating on its side. This is actually the best reason to raise it, not lower it, for those who ride pretty aggressively. A nice additional benefit is lighter steering due to a reduction in the caster angle at the front end.
This is often done in conjunction with raising the front as much as 1/2" by sliding the fork tubes down through the triple tree clamps.
One consideration is that as you raise it, you effect more lean on the sidestand. It gets pretty extreme after about 1". A spacer can be added to the sidestand foot if needed. Lowering it may require cutting the sidestand length and will make it harder to get on the centerstand. Just things to be aware of.
Here's a link with some pics to a thread started by Bastardchild about his link change. Hope this helps.
http://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,475.0.html
Due to angles involved the accuracy will vary slightly but should be accurate to a max of 1/8" error working at 2" change or less. That has been my direct experience.
I wouldn't lower the rear at all due to already limited corner clearance. It can and has been done but it further limits the clearance available and scraping hard parts like the lower fairing and eventually the pipes or centerstand arm, begs to unload the tires and send the bike skating on its side. This is actually the best reason to raise it, not lower it, for those who ride pretty aggressively. A nice additional benefit is lighter steering due to a reduction in the caster angle at the front end.
This is often done in conjunction with raising the front as much as 1/2" by sliding the fork tubes down through the triple tree clamps.
One consideration is that as you raise it, you effect more lean on the sidestand. It gets pretty extreme after about 1". A spacer can be added to the sidestand foot if needed. Lowering it may require cutting the sidestand length and will make it harder to get on the centerstand. Just things to be aware of.
Here's a link with some pics to a thread started by Bastardchild about his link change. Hope this helps.
http://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,475.0.html
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·is there a website to buy dogbones
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·i mean onile on google , or yahoo
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What do you want exactly?
We are giving you the direct contact with the chairman of the head office and you want to speak to the clerk about your request .
I do not understand what a web site will bring you more since all the product reviews are available here if you look around, the contacts are available here to get in touch with the whole manufacturing team, the marketing team and even the billing department. All that under 1 simple adress.
To answer your question, no, FOG doesn't have a web site as far as I know. He's an expert machinist and he's got his own shop at the back of the house and he's sharing his expertise with peoples who likes to listen.
If you absolutely need to do your business through a web site, I am sure you can find equivalent products on ebay. But for FOG's dogbones, FOG's the go-to guy.
If you have any request about his products, I am sure a quick message through his emails, not pm, emails, will bring you all the answers you'll need
Is there anything else I can help you with ? 8)
We are giving you the direct contact with the chairman of the head office and you want to speak to the clerk about your request .
I do not understand what a web site will bring you more since all the product reviews are available here if you look around, the contacts are available here to get in touch with the whole manufacturing team, the marketing team and even the billing department. All that under 1 simple adress.
To answer your question, no, FOG doesn't have a web site as far as I know. He's an expert machinist and he's got his own shop at the back of the house and he's sharing his expertise with peoples who likes to listen.
If you absolutely need to do your business through a web site, I am sure you can find equivalent products on ebay. But for FOG's dogbones, FOG's the go-to guy.
If you have any request about his products, I am sure a quick message through his emails, not pm, emails, will bring you all the answers you'll need
Is there anything else I can help you with ? 8)
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