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Okay, I finally got myself a radar unit. (Yes, I know they are not flawless etc. etc., but whatever - I've been stopped twice this fall - by the same guy! - on my favorite road...miraculously I've been let off both times, but I don't expect him to let me go again.)

ANYWAY - it's the Escort Passport 8500 X50. The direct wire cord is far from self explanatory (at least for me, who knows less than nothing about this..)

Can anyone get me pointed in the right direction in installing this direct wire cord?
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Oh dear, it makes a lot more sense once you actually look at the battery, doesn't it? ::)
 

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Okay, I still have questions...

The point of confusion is that my direct wire cord is not equipped with the sort of connector that screws directly onto the battery. It has a set up that allows one tap into an existing wire on the moto. I could do this, or I could just go buy the connector for the battery. It seems quite simple to connect it directly to a wire already in there, but...

Which wire/where???

Also - if I connect it to a wire, rather than directly to a battery, does this mean that the unit will turn off automatically when I turn off the bike? (Thus removing the need to remember to unplug it?)

Any pros/cons to either method?

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I don't have any experience with this kind of thing, but I had write something...
rather than leave you hanging w/o anyone commenting.

You might Google search the problem using the model name & the word "installation."
Somebody in this world & on the net ought to have dealt with these issues, eh?
 

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Well, that's awfully nice! I was feeling kinda sad...
Yes, I'll have to do some research I guess. I thought this forum would be the best place to start! It seems easy to install - I just don't know which wires are what on the moto, and don't know which would be the right one to choose, even if I DID know what was what!
 

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Maybe it's old USAF avionics training but I've never been a fan of tapping into a wire.
Even if the current draw for the device is very low I'd rather just get a crimp-on or solder-on terminal and hook the power wire directly to the battery (if the device has a built in fuse) or protected end of a fuse /fusebox. I just don't know enough about this bike nor have a manual.

I'm a big fan of a good solid ground connection too.

Let us know how it's going, ok? Bart
 

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Yeah, I was wondering which would be the best route. There IS a fuse on the cord, and a part to connect for grounding. Prolly won't actually get to this for a few days, tho.
 

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just cut the end of wire off and spilt it. one is the hot wire the other ground. find a keyed hot wire closer near front of bike(keyed meaning u turn on ignition and it powers up that wire/circuit. once u find it splice in to it. verify the fuse is something low like 2 amps. find a solid metal area and hook up ground wire. i use to remove the paint on my race car to get a solid connection. u could solder but butt splices/terminal lugs are quick and will last a long time
i'm thinking of doing this also since my fairing has a towel rack cross brace on it
 

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just cut the end of wire off and spilt it. one is the hot wire the other ground
The wire is already split, so I'm good with that.


find a keyed hot wire closer near front of bike(keyed meaning u turn on ignition and it powers up that wire/circuit
That's really what my questions is: how do I find such a wire? No idea which is which... Also - it is required that the wire is 14-18 ga size. How do I measure it?


verify the fuse is something low like 2 amps
Yep - it's 2a/250v (Wow! I actually figured that one out on my own!)

Sorry if these are basic questions... eh - we all start somewhere. I have the good fortune to be starting from.... nowhere!

Many thanks to all!
 
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You could tap into any of the power lines for the lights. Since it uses a 2 amp fuse, wire size shouldn't be an issue.

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get a 12v tester. turn on key and start looking for a hot wire. if ya hit paydirt. turn key off and see if tester light goes out. verify tester is hooked to a good ground/and it works
 

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The required wire size has to do with the actual connector bit, not the fuse.
 

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I had the side rails and seat off today to install my new-to-me Givi topcase brackets (thank you tuttdog!!), so that was the time to finally fix the cracks in the siderails and put in the radar direct cord. I just ended up wiring the cord directly to the battery. (In the end it was just easier than figuring out which wire to tap into). I had to cut off the original connecters on the cord and put in ring connecters, but that was easy enough. It seems like the nuts that go with the battery terminal bolts aren't orignal, though. They are a little smaller, so the bracket doesn't hold them in place when replacing the bolts. It's easy enough to hold them still with a screwdriver or tweezers, thankfully.
 

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Okay - some pics:
Haven't ever posted pics, sorry if this doesn't work as planned.

First pic is of the various adapters and connectors. "1-5" from left to right:
1) this thing came with the direct wire cord. You clip it to the wire you want to tap into. It says only for use on 14-18ga wires. The hinge has a slot that accepts part No 2. I kept flip flopping between - "wow that's slick" (you can choose a keyed wire and the radar will turn off when bike is turned off) to "wow that's cheesy" (messing with the integrity of the wires already in place). In the end it was easier to hook to the battery than decide what wire to tap. Besides, I'm not going to leave the moto unattended with the radar in place, anyway. I'm locking it in my new Givi topcase! (Yay!)
2) and 3) these were on the cord when I bought it. Part 2 is a tab that slides into the back of the hinge of part 1 when it's clipped around a wire. Part 3 is the ground wire - the ring was a little too small to fit my battery terminal bolt
4) and 5) I bought a box of these ( 1/4 " ring terminals) at PepBoys (auto parts store) - $2.50 for 16 of them. I cut off the original terminal connections and put these on so I could attach the cord straight to the battery. Don't mix up the ground and the positive wires! It's 18ga wire, by the way. Incidentally, in looking at the box, I see they're meant for 14-16 ga wires. Seems to work on my 18ga, although I had to work hard to crimp them down tight enough. We'll see if they hold. I only brought the bolt with me to the store, I didn't think to bring the cord itself.

Next pic shows the battery terminals/conenction points.

Third pic is a close up of terminal connection. I tried to show the nut in the little bracket. I think the bracket is supposed to keep the nut from spinning when you replace the bolt. I'm guessing the nuts aren't original, because they're a bit small, and spin around anyway. No matter - a screwdriver or tweezers will hold them in place while screwing in bolt. The picture is blurry, and it looks like there's some piece of metal hanging in front of the nut. It's not there - I went back outside to check. Must be some wierd reflection or something.

Fourth pic - the excess wire zip tied to frame. I'll neaten it up before I put it all back together. Don't let it rest on the plastic covering for the rear wheel. The seat will push on it, and you smell burning plastic when you hit the throttle! (I learned this by having some other junk crammed under the seat.)

Hope this is what you were looking for!

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no i was looking for your mount location of the detector. i have a alum. crosspiece on my fairing and have been interested in your style of mounting it. the wiring part was no problem, mounting the detector is a problem!! :p
 

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Oh!!! I thought that was odd...
Anyway, I just put it in the tank bag. I don't really want it mounted and obviously visible. Right now I slide it under my map in the map pocket, but I'm going to put a little netting pocket on the side of the tank bag specifically for the radar detector. Seems to work fine under the map at the moment, but it's a little bulky, and too easy to accidently press the buttons on the top of the unit.
I have a couple of little Radio Shack connectors so I can connect the radar audio plug and my MD player to one set of earphones.
 
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