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Ok, we've had discussions on track tires and different sized tires. Say you don't have alot of interest in getting on a track, but want a real nice set of tires for the road.
What do you recommend? Please give brand and model, and size if it varies from stock
 
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I've been happy with my Pilot Activ's. Lots of mileage from them, good grip, etc.
 
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I bought a set of Continental Conti Force a while back. I'm happy with them so far. 120 front and 150 rear. A Z rated radial and they cost less than $200.00 for the set.

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I also recently put on the Pilot Activs in stock size for the 03 500R...110-70-17 and 130-70-17. I have about 1000 miles on them and so far have really liked them.
 

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I run the pilot power from motorace, they are a nice tire. hold the road really good. i've got 5,000 off this set. i run the 110 70 17 up front and the 150 60 17 on the rear. i've asked around about other tires and the general opinion has been to stick with the pilot powers. good tires they run about 130 shipped from motorace.

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Right after "WHAT'S THE BEST OIL" THIS IS GOT TO Bee THE WORST QUESTION. You'll never get a concensus, only as many choices as responders. The truth is, If you got to ask. just get the black round ones and you'll be fine
 

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the black round ones
... beat me to it :D

a decent answer depends on what size rims you have, what kinda riding you do, what your budget is and how many miles you expect to get out of a set of tires.
 

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luke said:
Ok, we've had discussions on track tires and different sized tires. Say you don't have alot of interest in getting on a track, but want a real nice set of tires for the road.
What do you recommend? Please give brand and model, and size if it varies from stock
Recommendations without sharing driving styles are meaningless.
Person A drives year round in warm dry weather on asphalt, & is a corner carving machine.
Person B drives the same roads but is an efficiency commuter.
Person C drives in northern climates & may have cold morning roads & hot afternoon roads & needs tires that are predictable on wet & dry, asphalt or concrete.

They will "LOVE" different tires.

Suggestion: if you love certain tires, tell us what your weather, roads & driving style & priorities are.
Otherwise he can't know what might work best for him.

Counterpoints welcome.
 

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Tire selection is VERY subjective.
If you don't have a preference start with the cheapest tire you can find (Cheng Shin, affectionally known as slide king) and work up from there. (They AREN'T that bad!)
Buying the tires that Nicky Hayden uses WILL NOT make you ride like him.
Conversely riding like Nicky Hayden on Cheng Shin's will get you MY undying respect.
 

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Those of you in the "black round ones" camp, I see your point. The objective was more to draw out some particular brands to avoid. Right now I'm thinking I'm in the market for tires for the CBR F2, and the ninja is getting sold.

I think some valid points were brought up about the style of riding and so forth so I will describe my needs in more detail.
I live in southwest Wisconsin. The riding season is comparatively short here. I don't intend to visit a track anytime soon and don't have a real developed interest in track racing. My riding style will most likely consist of a balance between commuting and spirited street riding.

Keep in mind that I really haven't put enough miles on any given bike to warrant a tire replacement. So, naturally my basis of thought is rather thin in this area, short of 'you get what you pay for.' Anyway, given these circumstances, even a response of "it really doesn't matter" is still a valid piece of information because its based on the experience of others that I wouldn't otherwise have to benefit me. So with that in mind, are there any particularly shining choices out there that suit my needs? Maybe somebody has a link for a place to get tires at a good price?

thanks for the replies.
 

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Sport Rider just did a fairly interesting tire comparison in their latest issue between Michelin and Dunlop. In it the general tire choice they would make for a well-rounded tire was the standard Michelin Pilot Power (Not the 2CT) or the Dunlop Sportmax Qualifier, scoring an average of 9/10 in the general category. as a side note, the author notes that after the street course the Dunlop (mounted on a ZX-6R)was showing more wear than the Michelin (Mounted on a YZF-R1).

pick up an issue and take a read. maybe it will help you decide. It's the December 2006 Issue of Sport Rider.
 

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Those of you in the "black round ones" camp, I see your point. The objective was more to draw out some particular brands to avoid. Right now I'm thinking I'm in the market for tires for the CBR F2, and the ninja is getting sold.

I think some valid points were brought up about the style of riding and so forth so I will describe my needs in more detail.
I live in southwest Wisconsin. The riding season is comparatively short here. I don't intend to visit a track anytime soon and don't have a real developed interest in track racing. My riding style will most likely consist of a balance between commuting and spirited street riding.

Keep in mind that I really haven't put enough miles on any given bike to warrant a tire replacement. So, naturally my basis of thought is rather thin in this area, short of 'you get what you pay for.' Anyway, given these circumstances, even a response of "it really doesn't matter" is still a valid piece of information because its based on the experience of others that I wouldn't otherwise have to benefit me. So with that in mind, are there any particularly shining choices out there that suit my needs? Maybe somebody has a link for a place to get tires at a good price?

thanks for the replies.
On the street I've got experience w/ dunlop 207's (sucked), Metzler M1's (very good street), Michelin Pilot Powers (excelent street/trackday tire) and Pirelli Supercorsas (a DOT race tire that I had mounted on my ZX6R when i was down at VIR. I got em for the track but left em on when i rode them on street)

For commuting & spirited street use, from the tires i have experience with, i'd recommend the Metzler M1's. I'm sure you'd love the Pilot Powers, but they'll have more grip than you'll need, which isn't a bad thing but because of that they won't have the life expectancy you'd want. So if you went Michelin, i'd suggest the Pilot Roads or the Pilot Sports. The Pilot Activ's would probably be alright too and are pretty cheap.

If you went Pirelli, i've the sport demons have pretty good reviews and their website will show you they're the recommended tire for street use on the EX.

Basically, for your intended use, just stick w/ any of the major manufacturers & try out any of their street tires. I haven't tried Bridgestones yet and I'm not a fan of Dunlop, but that's only cuz of how bad the 207's sucked... i haven't had the opportunity to give them a second chance yet.
 

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Well, I've got a few questions. All of my tire knowledge comes from a cage. I hope they don't fall into the 'dumb' catagory; if they do lemme know my mistake or where I should be thinking.

All questions assume street use:

What are the advantages and disadvantages to plus sizing tires? (going wider)
When going to a wider tire, is it necessary (or possible) to drop the profile (keeping overall diameter equal)?
What is common/good milage to look for from stock tires, sport tires, and touring tires?

As this is my first season riding I'm not pushing it through the corners yet, but I am working on my skill level. I'm thinking of going for a set to sport-tour with. I constanty hear how terrible the stock rubber is on the EX, but have nothing to compare it to; and I think this is a big problem for rookies and why they ask so many questions about which tire is "best". Of course it's subjective, but there should be some infomation out there that would help us make an informed decision, or lead us toward the right questions.
 

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Lacessit said:
What are the advantages and disadvantages to plus sizing tires? (going wider)
When going to a wider tire, is it necessary (or possible) to drop the profile (keeping overall diameter equal)?
What is common/good milage to look for from stock tires, sport tires, and touring tires?
It'll have a bigger footprint on the pavment, but as you go wider it slows down steering response. To a point, this can be compensated for by making changes to the geometry.

yes, you can drop the aspect ratio & keep it pretty close to the stock rolling diameter.

20k or more is possible on sport/touring tires depending on how easy you are on em.
 

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...at the outset, I thought this would be an interesting/useful site; I'm getting back into riding after a 15 year layoff, and a lot has changed with regard to both bikes and the technology that goes along with them. Finding this site would seem a boon, as there really isn't much out there regarding the EX-series bikes.
Having said that, Fog's response to Luke's query about tires is simultaneously pathetic and elitist; reading it I got the impression that Fog must have come forth from the birth canal on an H2, factory service manual in hand. To draw a better analog, how would any of you react if you, say, went to buy a new bike or car and your questions were answered in the same vein as "the black round ones"? Me thinks you probably would not be conducting any sort of business with them if you could at all help it.
My point being that nobody knows everything, and that at some point in his life Fog was probably a "squid" or a "newbie", to use two particularly noxious terms. I myself started at age 11 on a Yamaha CT3, and in no time at all, my father was referring to me as Crash Gordon. As time went on, I improved my game, and developed into a responsible and skilled rider (both on street and dirt), while at the same time imparting what I had learned to other less experienced riders.
Admittedly, not all tires are created equal, but a lot of how your tires perform has to do with how you the rider perform. If you decide to do a half-ass impersonation of Mike Hailwood while running 'Chipped Shins', yes, you're probably going to do a get-down sooner than later. Not knowing what to run is just that, not knowing what to run. Worst question ever ? At this point I'm starting to think it was asking myself if I wanted to get back into riding.
 

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Deano...
If you haven't yet visited the mods, engine, & other suspension forums... Give them a go.
FOG through me off at first with his brief & somethines (seemingly) cranky replies (but he also shares his racing & rebuilding experience, & isn't real keen on wordy replies (such as this). Of course, all are free to share agreements, or counterpoints... or be mute. Whatever.
It seems that once any motorcycle site covers engine, suspension/tires, and maintenance/mod tips then the key topics are covered. Most of the rest is squaring-up new members and building some comraderie.
Open community, eh?
 

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No Deano,
I'm A retired Engineer that used to race ex's for 15 years last season was 2000 at age 64. won 1 class 2nd in another. I just hang around here to try to keep the kids from doing stupid stuff. I'll stick by my comment of "round black ones". If you knew me better you would read into that that there aren't any bad ones out there. Even the Stock tires aren't as bad as there made out to be. Folks change em because there there.
I think by now you'll see my point. You'll get as many answers as there are tires.

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the stock tires are absolutely fine, I had the stock front on my 500 for the longest time, even as worn out as it was it worked well.

granted there probably ARE some better tires out there in terms of grip, or longevity, or some other area, each one serves a purpose. what works for one person may not necessarily work for another, because the individual is what is different, not the bike. where one person is like grandma going to the store, another may be like Nikki Hayden on the roads. each style calls for a different kind of tire.

myself, I like to have the best, but I cant afford it.
 

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No Deano,
I'm A retired Engineer that used to race ex's for 15 years last season was 2000 at age 64. won 1 class 2nd in another. I just hang around here to try to keep the kids from doing stupid stuff. I'll stick by my comment of "round black ones". If you knew me better you would read into that that there aren't any bad ones out there. Even the Stock tires aren't as bad as there made out to be. Folks change em because there there.
I think by now you'll see my point. You'll get as many answers as there are tires.

FOG
Agreed! FOG is Old and cranky , but so are most 'older guys' . His answers don't bother me cause he answers questions much like my father does(ever seen 'Grumpy Old Men' ?) As for the stock tires they are OK , my front is still like new and the rear didn't make 5k miles . Now I have a Dunlop K505 on the rear . Why ? Well , Because I get a discount at the Honda shop and thats what they had to fit my bike (140/70/17) , the tire come stock on a NightHawk or Hurricane 600R.
So ... If your willing to let the voice of 1 person deter you from riding , maybe then it's not for you . But it seems you have some good insight Deano and we'd like for you to stick around !
 
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