The Phoenix pants have made it ok through my recent low side fall: a few tears and holes here and there, and one of the knee pads almost wore through. The current version of Phoenix pants has much better armor in the knees.
I bought some good quality leather chaps from a shop and bought some auto adhesive velcro. Bought hip and knee protections from a bike shop. Stuck the protection in the chaps. Chaps are just loose enough so a bit of air is going through the legs helping me keeping my cool 8)
Both are extremely pricey. I initially got the Street Jeans because I wanted something that looked relatively normal off the bike. Since that time, I don't care anymore about this issue and the Ultra II's are more versatile I think.
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