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This is a project or parts opportunity

The 2002 ran, needed a carb clean, once done it does not run or runs poorly
The 1990 Red and black bike ran many years when I bought it. It fired right up.I tried again recently and it turns over fine but there is no spark and it does not star.
The 1991 has not run since bought many years ago

None of the bikes are currently registered
California DMW will try to charge penalties and back registration if you want to put any of these back on the road.

2002 Kawasaki EX500 Only 7,600 miles
SALVAGE TITLE
Stored properly, started right up. I raced EX500s twenty years ago. I bought this bike in 2003 because it had low miles.
Since my carb clean attempts (plural) the bike does not run properly if it will start at all.I read all the posts here. I have an ultrasonic cleaner and some skill but I give up here. The carbs win.
$700 worth more than that in parts

1990 Kawasaki EX500
Red and Black. 26k miles
No title, bill of sale (I have the lien sale paper work from the previous owner.)
I bought this from a guy in the east bay, brought it home, with a little work it fired right up
After sitting for many years, it cranks over but does not start
It does not have spark, I don't know why
$300

1991 Kawasaki EX500 8,000+ miles
Clean CA title not registered for years. DMW will try to to charge penalties and back registration
Does not start or run
I have a complete exhaust for this bike
$200

All or part.
More pics available if you want them please let me know
Thanks
Dan
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I am interested in the 1991 gen1. When was the last time it was registered? Need to figure out about how much back fees will be.
I also see it is missing the rear brake lever, right rearset and linkage assembly, plus the radiator is MIA. Do you have those?
 

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I am interested in the 1991 gen1. When was the last time it was registered? Need to figure out about how much back fees will be.
I also see it is missing the rear brake lever, right rearset and linkage assembly, plus the radiator is MIA. Do you have those?
Registering any of these bikes in California is going to be challenging. Although they have been stored in my garage, no tickets, never on the road, the DMV webpage approximates back fees and penalties for three years and current license fees. The penalties basically double the cost.
The 1990 and 1991 are approximately $780 the cost.
The 2002 is approximately $912 plus you would need a brake and light inspection and VIN verification.

There is a section on their page (https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handb...nd-penalties/waiver-of-fees-and-or-penalties/) which states pursuant to 9562 of the California vehicle code that during the transfer of a vehicle the new owner an request a waiver of the penalties only, you still pay back reg.

The DMV "may" waive the penalties at their "discretion" if they find the fees were incurred through no fault or intent of the owner.

IF that was the decision you could estimate about half of the cost to register.
IF
So that is an unknown
I am not an attorney nor do I offer legal advice.
It might work out, but it might not.

This can all be done online so says the DMV.

I am parting these out because It doesn't make any sense to me to pay the DMV that large sum for a motorcycle in need of repair work.
I bought these bikes to fix and make whole again. I never intended to incur any fees and I never had them on the road and I saw no point in saying registration for a non running , stored motorcycle.

I do not not want anyone to get into these motorcycles expecting to get them on the road without being informed about the current registration status and what costs may be charged.

If you are still reading, yes I have all the parts you noted as MIA. (Actually I have 3 radiators, maybe more)

Thanks
Dan
 

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Wow california loves charging fees for everything. I bought a 2007 that hadn't been registered in over 10 years and when I went to register it the cost was under $50.

Would they require the same if it was registered out of state and then back to California? Years ago I bought a Datsun from california and didn't have to do any back fees or penalties, but then again it was a '77 so maybe it didn't count for such old vehicles
 

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$780 is, indeed, a bit steep for a project, so I think I'll pass. However, what's strange is that here in California, vehicles (supposedly) drop off after 7 years unless they're put on non-op. So, registration in 2003 should have it out of the system. Additionally, in the past, $700+ in back fees took around 6 years to achieve, I'd think 3 years would be much less unless costs really have gone up in the last 5 years in this state.
Hmm, all very strange.
 

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"Hmm, all very strange."
Compared to other states, yes, but explained to me as sneaky taxation.

With property taxes frozen by Proposition 13 years ago, the California government agencies became quite savvy at raising "fees" to gather money for operations. Last time I checked, DMV had policy of charging previous two years registration plus penalties for late payment (+ current year going forward), for practically any vehicle, even one without paperwork suddenly discovered in someone's barn. The only folks able to reduce those fees appear to be so-called DMV paperwork specialists who work independently, and charge good money for their services. Sometimes they succeed in reducing fees, sometimes not.

Also very difficult to win traffic court cases because the County and City have already budgeted spending their expected percentage of fines and fees, even before you get to court!

Welcome to California!
 

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VERY interested in the 02, is it still as pictured? I'm located in Bakersfield. Could easily make the drive tomorrow.
 
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