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I am picking up a 93 ex500 in about a week. Its going to need some new tires. I've done some reading and I see that on the pre-94 models, they use a 16" wheel and the tire options are very slim....

Are there any 17" wheels which will swap without any major modifications?

I know alot of people do the f2 wheel swaps, but that requires some customer spacers to be made. I don't have the time or equipment to do anything like that. I'm looking for a fairly simple bolt-on deal (if there is such a thing).

If there isn't an "easy" wheel swap, what does everyone recommend for tires? I want something super sticky/agressive. I will be doing alot of canyon runs. I'm not too worried about wear or price, but I don't want to pay $500 for a tire. Any suggestions?
 

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I am picking up a 93 ex500 in about a week. Its going to need some new tires. I've done some reading and I see that on the pre-94 models, they use a 16" wheel and the tire options are very slim....

Are there any 17" wheels which will swap without any major modifications?

I know alot of people do the f2 wheel swaps, but that requires some customer spacers to be made. I don't have the time or equipment to do anything like that. I'm looking for a fairly simple bolt-on deal (if there is such a thing).

If there isn't an "easy" wheel swap, what does everyone recommend for tires? I want something super sticky/agressive. I will be doing alot of canyon runs. I'm not too worried about wear or price, but I don't want to pay $500 for a tire. Any suggestions?
Off-topic.. but are you a programmer or web developer?
 

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Off-topic.. but are you a programmer or web developer?
??? nope neither.
Ha! It was a long shot. You spelled 'custom' as 'customer', which I do all the time, as I've typed the work 'customer' so many times while database programming that I can't seem to type the word 'custom' without muscle memory completing it all the way out to 'customer'.

Kind of annoying.
 

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username182 said:
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Off-topic.. but are you a programmer or web developer?
??? nope neither.
Ha! It was a long shot. You spelled 'custom' as 'customer', which I do all the time, as I've typed the work 'customer' so many times while database programming that I can't seem to type the word 'custom' without muscle memory completing it all the way out to 'customer'.

Kind of annoying.
Ah lol I didn't even catch that. I basically sit behind a desk and tell people what to do via email all day long, so "customer" is a word I type pretty often. I guess I have the same "muscle memory" problem lol.


Anywho, nobody has any suggestions for sticky tires for a pre 94 ex500 (16" wheel)?
 

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i just got a fresh set of Metzeler lasertecs, tire sizes in the sig, they are amazing.
i just started a topic about tires for first gen EX's, and someone mentioned four quality choices.check out that thread.


edit:here ya go

http://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,619.0.html
 

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The two stickiest 16" tires I have found are the Avon AM22/23 VR, then the Bridgestone BT55VR (or was it 45, but who cares they're not as good as the Avons.)
the Avons aren't cheap.
 

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The two stickiest 16" tires I have found are the Avon AM22/23 VR, then the Bridgestone BT55VR (or was it 45, but who cares they're not as good as the Avons.)
the Avons aren't cheap.
I can't seem to find those Avon's in anything smaller than a 140/80/16...Will a 140 fit on the pre 94 ex500 16" wheels? I thought the largest I wanted to go would be a 130/90/16....They look to be around $150-175 for the rear tire, I don't mind spending that if they are worth it.

Is there a huge difference between the bridgestones and the avon's?
 

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The 140 fits. It is specially constructed to fit a narrow rim.
The tire you are looking for is a AM23 SuperVenom 140-80VR16. Be sure to get the VR, they also make a HR.
 
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Unless your bike is turbo charged, you'd be fine getting the HR (130mph top speed) as opposed the VR (149mph top speed).
 

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Around how much mileage do they offer ? Just to get an idea ?
 

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thanks for the info guys.

I want something super sticky, but from what I'm reading about the Avon's it says "DELIVERS OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE UNDER COOL OR DAMP CONDITIONS" which kinda confuses me....

I think I might end up just going with the Bridgestone BT45's....
 

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Most of those Avons are obsolete now anyway; the AM22/23, the AM18/20 Supervenom, and the AM20/21 Roadrunner except a few sizes. Old design replaced by their new Roadrider line of tires that just came out.

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL TIRES/AVON/AVON MC/avon_am22sc_am23sctf.htm

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL TIRES/AVON/AVON MC/avon_am18_am20.htm

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL TIRES/AVON/AVON MC/avon_am20_am21_roadrunner.htm

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL TIRES/AVON/AVON MC/avon_am26_roadrider.htm

Try the new tires like the Demons, Lasertecs, or BT45 that are a proper fit on your wheel in the 130/90/16 recommended size. The Demons seemed to be most popular with the pre 94 EX users on the old forum, I like the Lasertecs. Don't know much about the Roadriders yet.
 

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Is this a good deal on tires (incl shipping)?
"We are now offering Pilot Powers as well as qualifiers for $225.00 per set for 180 rear, and 237.99 per set for 190 rear."
http://www.kawiforums.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52312

If it's a great deal, I wonder how old these tires are. Aren't "old" tires to be avoided?
 

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Like oreo, I also did alot of research on this subject. Your best bet for 16'' tires are:

Dunlop GT501'S
Bridgestone BT-45's, Just make sure they are the V-Rated for 149+mph. Better compounds.(I have heard from some racers over here that they stick awesome when it's cool, But when the track temp is up, and the tire temp aswell, they have a tendancy to squirm. Don't really have to worry about this one the street tho.)
Avon supervenoms
Avon Azaro st av45/av46 st. (These are a radial sport touring tire. I've heard good things about them for street or track use)
Metzler Lasertecs. (Formerly known as the CompK. They were a good tire, and are now a better tire due to revised tread design and better compounds)

and last but not least, the Pirelli Sport Demons.

Personally, I would pick either the GT501's, or the Avon Azaros. I think I am going to run the Azaros for this race season. All of these tires are relatively cheap aswell, I think you can pick up a set of any of these for under 300.
 
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